{"id":25649,"date":"2023-06-05T11:47:31","date_gmt":"2023-06-05T09:47:31","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.historyextra.com\/?p=232840"},"modified":"2023-06-05T23:11:43","modified_gmt":"2023-06-05T21:11:43","slug":"are-some-lgbtq-histories-being-overlooked","status":"publish","type":"rss_feed","link":"https:\/\/c01.purpledshub.com\/bbchistory\/rss_feed\/are-some-lgbtq-histories-being-overlooked\/","title":{"rendered":"Are some LGBTQ histories being overlooked?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"rssexcerpt\"> Exploring the lives of historical people with diverse sexualities and gender identities can be revealing \u2013 but also fraught with difficulties. Matt Elton spoke to five historians, who cover a range of time periods, to discuss some of these issues <\/p><p class=\"rssauthor\">By Matt Elton\n                \t\t<\/p><p class=\"rssbyline\">Published: Monday, 05 June 2023 at 12:00 am<\/p><hr class=\"no-tts wp-block-separator\"\/><?xml version=\"1.0\" encoding=\"UTF-8\" standalone=\"yes\"?>\n<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><body> <h3>What challenges are there in charting the experiences of LGBTQ [lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender and queer] people in the periods you study?<\/h3>\n<p><strong>Florence Scott:<\/strong> I work on England in the early medieval period, and the biggest challenge I have is a lack of evidence. There are very few surviving written sources for this time compared with other periods, and those that exist tend to be religious documents. As the church was very wealthy, it was the biggest producer of written material at this time, so most documents pertain to the elites in society, and have a religious focus. Hence individual people\u2019s lives, and their experiences of gender and sexuality, are captured only very rarely in the written source record. That\u2019s a huge pitfall with studying LGBTQ people in this period, because the lack of source material can lead people to assume everybody had a heterosexual or cisgender [having an identity aligning with their sex at birth] experience.<\/p>\n<ul><li><strong>On the podcast | <a href=\"&quot;https:\/\/www.historyextra.com\/period\/general-history\/overlooked-lgbtq-history-podcast-florence-scott-fleur-macinnes-tim-wingard-channing-joseph-anthony-delaney\/&quot;\">Which LGBTQ+ histories get told \u2013 and which get overlooked?<\/a><\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul><p><strong>Tim Wingard:<\/strong> I focus on the later Middle Ages, and encounter many of the same issues that Florence does. The lack of source material is a huge problem: there\u2019s not much evidence offering insights into people\u2019s own experiences of their sexuality. Instead, we often have to use legal records drawn up in the different courts, particularly in England, in which you can see LGBTQ people interacting with the law. There are a couple of famous examples. One is the questioning of Eleanor Rykener, a \u2018cross-dressing\u2019 sex worker, in one of London\u2019s courts in 1395.<\/p>\n<p>The limitation with this material is that it\u2019s very much written about LGBTQ individuals by other people, and tends to take a very hostile stance towards them. So we have to work quite creatively to actually understand these people\u2019s own experiences of themselves and their identities.<\/p>\n<div class=\"&quot;image-handler__container\" image-handler__container--aspect=\"\" style=\"&quot;padding-bottom:\" calc=\"\"> <picture><source media=\"&quot;(max-width:\" data-srcset=\"&quot;https:\/\/images.immediate.co.uk\/production\/volatile\/sites\/7\/2023\/06\/2K7FATGcmyk-e0ff901.png?webp=true&amp;quality=90&amp;resize=299%2C199,\" https:=\"\" type=\"&quot;image\/webp&quot;\"><source media=\"&quot;(max-width:\" data-srcset=\"&quot;https:\/\/images.immediate.co.uk\/production\/volatile\/sites\/7\/2023\/06\/2K7FATGcmyk-e0ff901.png?quality=90&amp;resize=299%2C199,\" https:=\"\" type=\"&quot;image\/png&quot;\"><source media=\"&quot;(max-width:\" data-srcset=\"&quot;https:\/\/images.immediate.co.uk\/production\/volatile\/sites\/7\/2023\/06\/2K7FATGcmyk-e0ff901.png?webp=true&amp;quality=90&amp;resize=354%2C236&quot;\" type=\"&quot;image\/webp&quot;\"><source media=\"&quot;(max-width:\" data-srcset=\"&quot;https:\/\/images.immediate.co.uk\/production\/volatile\/sites\/7\/2023\/06\/2K7FATGcmyk-e0ff901.png?quality=90&amp;resize=354%2C236&quot;\" type=\"&quot;image\/png&quot;\"><source media=\"&quot;(max-width:\" data-srcset=\"&quot;https:\/\/images.immediate.co.uk\/production\/volatile\/sites\/7\/2023\/06\/2K7FATGcmyk-e0ff901.png?webp=true&amp;quality=90&amp;resize=404%2C269&quot;\" type=\"&quot;image\/webp&quot;\"><source media=\"&quot;(max-width:\" data-srcset=\"&quot;https:\/\/images.immediate.co.uk\/production\/volatile\/sites\/7\/2023\/06\/2K7FATGcmyk-e0ff901.png?quality=90&amp;resize=404%2C269&quot;\" type=\"&quot;image\/png&quot;\"><source media=\"&quot;(max-width:\" data-srcset=\"&quot;https:\/\/images.immediate.co.uk\/production\/volatile\/sites\/7\/2023\/06\/2K7FATGcmyk-e0ff901.png?webp=true&amp;quality=90&amp;resize=554%2C369&quot;\" type=\"&quot;image\/webp&quot;\"><source media=\"&quot;(max-width:\" data-srcset=\"&quot;https:\/\/images.immediate.co.uk\/production\/volatile\/sites\/7\/2023\/06\/2K7FATGcmyk-e0ff901.png?quality=90&amp;resize=554%2C369&quot;\" type=\"&quot;image\/png&quot;\"><source media=\"&quot;(min-width:\" data-srcset=\"&quot;https:\/\/images.immediate.co.uk\/production\/volatile\/sites\/7\/2023\/06\/2K7FATGcmyk-e0ff901.png?webp=true&amp;quality=90&amp;resize=620%2C413&quot;\" type=\"&quot;image\/webp&quot;\"><source media=\"&quot;(min-width:\" data-srcset=\"&quot;https:\/\/images.immediate.co.uk\/production\/volatile\/sites\/7\/2023\/06\/2K7FATGcmyk-e0ff901.png?quality=90&amp;resize=620%2C413&quot;\" type=\"&quot;image\/png&quot;\"><source media=\"&quot;(min-width:\" data-srcset=\"&quot;https:\/\/images.immediate.co.uk\/production\/volatile\/sites\/7\/2023\/06\/2K7FATGcmyk-e0ff901.png?webp=true&amp;quality=90&amp;resize=407%2C271&quot;\" type=\"&quot;image\/webp&quot;\"><source media=\"&quot;(min-width:\" data-srcset=\"&quot;https:\/\/images.immediate.co.uk\/production\/volatile\/sites\/7\/2023\/06\/2K7FATGcmyk-e0ff901.png?quality=90&amp;resize=407%2C271&quot;\" type=\"&quot;image\/png&quot;\"><source media=\"&quot;(min-width:\" data-srcset=\"&quot;https:\/\/images.immediate.co.uk\/production\/volatile\/sites\/7\/2023\/06\/2K7FATGcmyk-e0ff901.png?webp=true&amp;quality=90&amp;resize=555%2C370&quot;\" type=\"&quot;image\/webp&quot;\"><source media=\"&quot;(min-width:\" data-srcset=\"&quot;https:\/\/images.immediate.co.uk\/production\/volatile\/sites\/7\/2023\/06\/2K7FATGcmyk-e0ff901.png?quality=90&amp;resize=555%2C370&quot;\" type=\"&quot;image\/png&quot;\"><img class=\"&quot;wp-image-232844\" align=\"\" size-landscape_thumbnail=\"\" image-handler__image=\"\" image-handler__image--aspect=\"\" no-wrap=\"\" js-lazyload=\"\" data-src=\"&quot;https:\/\/images.immediate.co.uk\/production\/volatile\/sites\/7\/2023\/06\/2K7FATGcmyk-e0ff901.png?quality=90&amp;resize=620%2C413&quot;\" width=\"&quot;620&quot;\" height=\"&quot;413&quot;\" alt=\"&quot;Chevalier\" d=\"\" wearing=\"\" a=\"\" black=\"\" hat=\"\" with=\"\" an=\"\" extravagant=\"\" bow=\"\" and=\"\" feather=\"\" title=\"&quot;The\" chevalier=\"\"\/><\/source><\/source><\/source><\/source><\/source><\/source><\/source><\/source><\/source><\/source><\/source><\/source><\/source><\/source><\/picture><\/div><div class=\"&quot;caption-hold&quot;\"><figcaption class=\"&quot;wp-caption-text&quot;\"><span class=\"&quot;caption-copy&quot;\"><i class=\"&quot;icon-arrow\" icon-camera-circle=\"\"\/> The Chevalier d\u2019\u00c9on, an 18th-century French soldier and spy who lived as a woman in later life. (Image by Alamy)<\/span><\/figcaption><span class=\"&quot;im-image-caption&quot;\"\/><\/div>\n<p><strong>Channing Joseph:<\/strong> As Tim says, you have to be creative with the records in order to understand people\u2019s experiences. I often start with journalistic sources that offer glimpses into early queer culture in the United States, including drag balls and arrests of their participants. I then try to learn as much as I can about the people described in those reports and, through them, about the world in which they lived and the communities of which they were a part.<\/p>\n<p>Even if you did have letters or diaries written by LGBTQ people, it\u2019s unlikely they would have written \u201cI identify as\u2026\u201d, with the blank filled in. The focus in previous centuries was not on identity or emotion, but on how they were enacting their identities in the world. We often approach the past from a single contemporary perspective and ask: \u201cHow did these people identify? Were they gay, were they trans, were they non-binary?\u201d And the answer to that is there is no answer. It\u2019s a bit like asking: \u201cWhat was New York like 500 years ago?\u201d There was an island, but no New York City. In the same way, our modern terms for identities may not have existed in the past, but people behaved in recognisable ways. This approach can offer us insights into what I call queer ancestors and the precursors to identities we use to make sense of the world today.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Fleur MacInnes:<\/strong> My research looks at the 1970s and 80s, so a lot of the people I focus on are still alive. That in itself raises a whole set of historical issues, especially when it comes to ensuring that I don\u2019t cross any boundaries by telling stories about people in a way they might not agree with, or put them in danger by revealing information they don\u2019t want made publicly available. Because even though the events could have happened 40 or 50 years ago, those are still people\u2019s lives, and the way in which their stories are told can still affect them to this day.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Anthony Delaney:<\/strong> I\u2019m generally quite lucky in my area of expertise, because there was a fair bit of discussion about gender and sexuality in the Georgian era. This means there are quite a lot of 18th and 19th-century sources on LGBTQ people, and in many cases they echo a lot of the discussions we\u2019re having in the present day.<\/p>\n<ul><li><strong>Read more | <a href=\"&quot;https:\/\/www.historyextra.com\/period\/victorian\/same-sex-couples-marriage-traditions-georgian-victorian-britain\/&quot;\">How Georgian and Victorian same-sex couples co-opted marital traditions and made them their own<\/a><\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul><p>One of the things I do find inconvenient is that the burden of proof for discussing and analysing queer histories is far higher than it is for other histories. So, for instance, we are required to go to great lengths to justify and quantify that the individuals or relationships we\u2019re looking at are actually part of queer history. That burden of proof is just not there for what we refer to as \u2018normative histories\u2019 \u2013 though I find that term a little reductive. We seem to just assume that identities and relationships in the past were heterosexual and, in order to deviate from that, the responsibility as queer historians is far higher. I\u2019m not sure why.<\/p>\n<h3>Are there people whose stories don\u2019t get told, or particular people who do or don\u2019t get to tell LGBTQ stories?<\/h3>\n<p><strong>FM:<\/strong> The answer to both questions is yes. In my research, for instance, little of the history of trans people after the 1950s focuses on people who didn\u2019t medically transition in some way. I think that\u2019s because our modern understanding of trans people is often defined by that medical process \u2013 but it means that it\u2019s very difficult to find accounts of non-binary people. If our understanding is defined by moving from one fixed gender identity to another, there\u2019s not much space for people whose gender identities may not have fit within those parameters.<\/p>\n<p>Moving on to who tells these stories: \u2028as a young, white, non-binary person who has only ever lived in Britain, I have a very specific view of transness and queerness and, as much as I try, I\u2019m never going to have a full range of understanding. So it\u2019s really important to be aware of who is talking about LGBTQ history. It\u2019s particularly hard to find stories of black trans women in the UK, because those communities are even more marginalised, due perhaps to the ways in which issues of ethnicity and gender and class intersect. There are also very few black female historians \u2013 yet such missing groups of people would be able to research those histories better than I can because they\u2019re part of those communities.<\/p>\n<ul><li><strong>Read more | <a href=\"&quot;https:\/\/www.historyextra.com\/period\/modern\/lgbt-lgbtq-history-challenges-debate\/&quot;\">What are the challenges of telling LGBTQ history?<\/a><\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul><p><strong>AD:<\/strong> It\u2019s really hard, in Britain, to unravel queer histories that include people of colour and, to some extent, working-class people. To get around that second issue, I\u2019ve been getting craftier with how I approach historical sources, and focusing on material relating to houses and homes \u2013 where they\u2019re situated, and what they were surrounded by. For instance, many of the working-class men we can learn about due to the raids on Margaret Clap\u2019s molly house [a London tavern for gay men] in the 1720s also lived there, so that\u2019s an example of a community for queer people who weren\u2019t part of the elite.<\/p>\n<div class=\"&quot;row&quot;\"> <div class=\"&quot;col-10\" offset-1=\"\"> <div class=\"&quot;embed&quot;\"> <div class=\"&quot;template-article__pullquote\" mt-md=\"\" mb-md=\"\"> <blockquote class=\"&quot;pullquote\" heading-4=\"\"> <span class=\"&quot;pullquote__icon\" pullquote__icon--left=\"\" icon-pullquote=\"\" data-grunticon-embed=\"\"\/>We\u2019re required to go to great lengths to justify that the individuals we\u2019re looking at are actually part of queer history<span class=\"&quot;pullquote__icon\" pullquote__icon--right=\"\" icon-pullquote=\"\" data-grunticon-embed=\"\"\/> <footer class=\"&quot;pullquote__author\" body-copy-small=\"\">Anthony Delaney<\/footer><\/blockquote> <\/div> <\/div> <\/div>\n<\/div> <p>I also think it\u2019s vital, as queer historians, to not dismiss our \u2018queerdar\u2019 when it comes to the source material. We all bring ourselves into our work anyway, so why do we need to deny that element of ourselves when it comes to researching something intangible such as queerness that you somehow know is there? Dig a little deeper, see where you can go, find out what you can unravel.<\/p>\n<p><strong>CGJ:<\/strong> It\u2019s obviously the case that some stories get overlooked, and it\u2019s my goal to tell some of those stories. I think that, if you have an interest in telling a story, you should put it out there. If you say: \u201cI\u2019m not the right person to tell the story,\u201d there\u2019s a risk that no one else has the time or interest, or has even noticed there\u2019s a story that needs to be told. If there are other people who are better qualified to do the telling than you, they always have the option of taking on the momentum from you.<\/p>\n<ul><li><strong>Read more | <a href=\"&quot;https:\/\/www.historyextra.com\/period\/general-history\/books-films-tv-podcast-lgbt-lgbtq-history-recommendations\/&quot;\">From Sappho to It\u2019s a Sin: 9 LGBT+ histories, chosen by experts<\/a><\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul><p>I grew up in a time and place where there was no discussion \u2013 not at school, not in the media \u2013 of the experiences of people in the past who were attracted to members of their own sex. The idea that people in history experienced same-sex attraction or non-standard gender identities was a concept totally foreign to my education, and it gave me a sense that there were no people like me in the past. It\u2019s distortion by omission.<\/p>\n<p>There are many people who we would now describe as queer, whose same-sex relationships, cross-dressing or involvement in events such as drag balls were influential to cultural movements and traditions that still exist in America today. By not including discussions of them, we misrepresent what actually happened and what was important to creating the world that we live in.<\/p>\n<div class=\"&quot;row&quot;\"> <div class=\"&quot;col-10\" offset-1=\"\"> <div class=\"&quot;embed&quot;\"> <div class=\"&quot;template-article__pullquote\" mt-md=\"\" mb-md=\"\"> <blockquote class=\"&quot;pullquote\" heading-4=\"\"> <span class=\"&quot;pullquote__icon\" pullquote__icon--left=\"\" icon-pullquote=\"\" data-grunticon-embed=\"\"\/>The issue of who is represented in history can turn into a battle between marginalised people<span class=\"&quot;pullquote__icon\" pullquote__icon--right=\"\" icon-pullquote=\"\" data-grunticon-embed=\"\"\/> <footer class=\"&quot;pullquote__author\" body-copy-small=\"\">Florence Scott<\/footer><\/blockquote> <\/div> <\/div> <\/div>\n<\/div> <p><strong>FS:<\/strong> My research explores political, establishment sources to find queer themes within them. I think there\u2019s sometimes an expectation that, if you\u2019re doing \u2018serious\u2019 political history, you\u2019re not going to be doing a queer interpretation \u2013 or that if you want to do queer history, it should be social history. Medieval history has, in the past, attracted some quite extreme conservative views, so I do sometimes wonder if I\u2019m the first person to have interpreted some of the sources I work with in a queer way.<\/p>\n<p>The issue of who gets to be represented in history can often turn into a battle fought between various groups of marginalised people. Gains in the recognition of particular sexualities or gender identities can sometimes unfairly overshadow other interpretations of history: someone claiming that a historical figure was trans or gender non-conforming can be interpreted as erasing other identities. That\u2019s a real problem, because there should be room for everybody\u2019s narratives and interpretations to exist in history.<\/p>\n<div class=\"&quot;image-handler__container\" image-handler__container--aspect=\"\" style=\"&quot;padding-bottom:\" calc=\"\"> <picture><source media=\"&quot;(max-width:\" data-srcset=\"&quot;https:\/\/images.immediate.co.uk\/production\/volatile\/sites\/7\/2023\/06\/RTS97JPNcmyk-524687d.png?webp=true&amp;quality=90&amp;resize=299%2C199,\" https:=\"\" type=\"&quot;image\/webp&quot;\"><source media=\"&quot;(max-width:\" data-srcset=\"&quot;https:\/\/images.immediate.co.uk\/production\/volatile\/sites\/7\/2023\/06\/RTS97JPNcmyk-524687d.png?quality=90&amp;resize=299%2C199,\" https:=\"\" type=\"&quot;image\/png&quot;\"><source media=\"&quot;(max-width:\" data-srcset=\"&quot;https:\/\/images.immediate.co.uk\/production\/volatile\/sites\/7\/2023\/06\/RTS97JPNcmyk-524687d.png?webp=true&amp;quality=90&amp;resize=354%2C236&quot;\" type=\"&quot;image\/webp&quot;\"><source media=\"&quot;(max-width:\" data-srcset=\"&quot;https:\/\/images.immediate.co.uk\/production\/volatile\/sites\/7\/2023\/06\/RTS97JPNcmyk-524687d.png?quality=90&amp;resize=354%2C236&quot;\" type=\"&quot;image\/png&quot;\"><source media=\"&quot;(max-width:\" data-srcset=\"&quot;https:\/\/images.immediate.co.uk\/production\/volatile\/sites\/7\/2023\/06\/RTS97JPNcmyk-524687d.png?webp=true&amp;quality=90&amp;resize=404%2C269&quot;\" type=\"&quot;image\/webp&quot;\"><source media=\"&quot;(max-width:\" data-srcset=\"&quot;https:\/\/images.immediate.co.uk\/production\/volatile\/sites\/7\/2023\/06\/RTS97JPNcmyk-524687d.png?quality=90&amp;resize=404%2C269&quot;\" type=\"&quot;image\/png&quot;\"><source media=\"&quot;(max-width:\" data-srcset=\"&quot;https:\/\/images.immediate.co.uk\/production\/volatile\/sites\/7\/2023\/06\/RTS97JPNcmyk-524687d.png?webp=true&amp;quality=90&amp;resize=554%2C369&quot;\" type=\"&quot;image\/webp&quot;\"><source media=\"&quot;(max-width:\" data-srcset=\"&quot;https:\/\/images.immediate.co.uk\/production\/volatile\/sites\/7\/2023\/06\/RTS97JPNcmyk-524687d.png?quality=90&amp;resize=554%2C369&quot;\" type=\"&quot;image\/png&quot;\"><source media=\"&quot;(min-width:\" data-srcset=\"&quot;https:\/\/images.immediate.co.uk\/production\/volatile\/sites\/7\/2023\/06\/RTS97JPNcmyk-524687d.png?webp=true&amp;quality=90&amp;resize=620%2C413&quot;\" type=\"&quot;image\/webp&quot;\"><source media=\"&quot;(min-width:\" data-srcset=\"&quot;https:\/\/images.immediate.co.uk\/production\/volatile\/sites\/7\/2023\/06\/RTS97JPNcmyk-524687d.png?quality=90&amp;resize=620%2C413&quot;\" type=\"&quot;image\/png&quot;\"><source media=\"&quot;(min-width:\" data-srcset=\"&quot;https:\/\/images.immediate.co.uk\/production\/volatile\/sites\/7\/2023\/06\/RTS97JPNcmyk-524687d.png?webp=true&amp;quality=90&amp;resize=407%2C271&quot;\" type=\"&quot;image\/webp&quot;\"><source media=\"&quot;(min-width:\" data-srcset=\"&quot;https:\/\/images.immediate.co.uk\/production\/volatile\/sites\/7\/2023\/06\/RTS97JPNcmyk-524687d.png?quality=90&amp;resize=407%2C271&quot;\" type=\"&quot;image\/png&quot;\"><source media=\"&quot;(min-width:\" data-srcset=\"&quot;https:\/\/images.immediate.co.uk\/production\/volatile\/sites\/7\/2023\/06\/RTS97JPNcmyk-524687d.png?webp=true&amp;quality=90&amp;resize=555%2C370&quot;\" type=\"&quot;image\/webp&quot;\"><source media=\"&quot;(min-width:\" data-srcset=\"&quot;https:\/\/images.immediate.co.uk\/production\/volatile\/sites\/7\/2023\/06\/RTS97JPNcmyk-524687d.png?quality=90&amp;resize=555%2C370&quot;\" type=\"&quot;image\/png&quot;\"><img class=\"&quot;wp-image-232845\" align=\"\" size-landscape_thumbnail=\"\" image-handler__image=\"\" image-handler__image--aspect=\"\" no-wrap=\"\" js-lazyload=\"\" data-src=\"&quot;https:\/\/images.immediate.co.uk\/production\/volatile\/sites\/7\/2023\/06\/RTS97JPNcmyk-524687d.png?quality=90&amp;resize=620%2C413&quot;\" width=\"&quot;620&quot;\" height=\"&quot;413&quot;\" alt=\"&quot;A\" participant=\"\" in=\"\" the=\"\" pride=\"\" london=\"\" parade=\"\" wearing=\"\" a=\"\" sparkling=\"\" headdress=\"\" and=\"\" rainbow=\"\" clothing.=\"\" title=\"&quot;A\" parade.=\"\" by=\"\" reuters=\"\"\/><\/source><\/source><\/source><\/source><\/source><\/source><\/source><\/source><\/source><\/source><\/source><\/source><\/source><\/source><\/picture><\/div><div class=\"&quot;caption-hold&quot;\"><figcaption class=\"&quot;wp-caption-text&quot;\"><span class=\"&quot;caption-copy&quot;\"><i class=\"&quot;icon-arrow\" icon-camera-circle=\"\"\/> A participant in the 2022 Pride in London Parade. (Image by Reuters)<\/span><\/figcaption><span class=\"&quot;im-image-caption&quot;\"\/><\/div>\n<p><strong>TW:<\/strong> There is a huge problem with just how under-represented trans people are in the discipline of history. I\u2019ve seen statistics from a year or two ago that suggested that there was only one out trans or non-binary person in a permanent position in medieval history at any university anywhere in the world. As this conversation demonstrates, there are more people at other, earlier-career stages of the profession \u2013 but there are still huge barriers to trans people accessing academia.<\/p>\n<p>That\u2019s partly down to attitudes. You run into a view that queer history is not worthy of research. Sometimes that\u2019s well-intentioned \u2013 you\u2019re told: \u2018You shouldn\u2019t be studying trans history because there\u2019s no market for it; you ought to do something more serious to get ahead\u2019 \u2013 and sometimes it comes from a more hostile place. But the other aspect of this is wealth. The trans community is disproportionately more likely to be alienated from family, so lacking family support or substantial income or finances themselves. That makes the career progression from undergraduate to postgraduate study infinitely more difficult.<\/p>\n<p>This is obviously something that\u2019s not exclusive to the trans community, and has just as serious an impact in preventing black people, disabled people and working-class people from becoming researchers. And it doesn\u2019t have to be the case that everyone who works on every historical topic has to have a personal identification with their material. But it still results in a situation \u2013 particularly for medieval studies \u2013 in which a very large amount of the work being produced about medieval trans people is by cisgender people. I think it\u2019s really important that communities are able to take ownership of their own histories \u2013 to play, if possible, the most important part in telling their own stories.<\/p>\n<section class=\"&quot;highlight\"><div class=\"&quot;highlight__content\" editor-content=\"\"> <h4>The panel<\/h4>\n<p><strong>Florence Scott<\/strong> is completing a PhD on gender and queenship at the University\u00a0of Leeds and is the author of\u00a0the Substack newsletter and podcast \u00c6lfgif-who?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Tim Wingard<\/strong>\u00a0is a lecturer in late medieval history at the University of York, whose work focuses on nature, gender and sexuality in medieval England and north-western Europe<\/p>\n<p><strong>Channing Gerard Joseph<\/strong> is a journalist and queer\u00a0historian whose work focuses\u00a0on sexuality and gender identity from the American slavery era to the early 20th century<\/p>\n<p><strong>Fleur MacInnes<\/strong> is a third-year history PhD student at the University of Oxford looking into trans-feminine experiences of the women\u2019s liberation movement in Britain in the 1970s and 1980s<\/p>\n<p><strong>Anthony Delaney<\/strong> is honorary research fellow at\u00a0the University of Exeter. His work explores gender and sexuality, particularly same-sex households, in 18th-century England<\/p>\n<p> <\/p><\/div> <\/section><p><em><strong>This article first appeared in the July 2023 issue of <a href=\"&quot;https:\/\/www.historyextra.com\/bbc-history-magazine\/&quot;\">BBC History Magazine<\/a><\/strong><\/em><\/p> <\/body><\/html>\n<hr class=\"no-tts wp-block-separator\"\/>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p> Exploring the lives of historical people with diverse sexualities and gender identities can be revealing \u2013 but also fraught with difficulties. 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