{"id":38185,"date":"2024-01-16T15:48:12","date_gmt":"2024-01-16T14:48:12","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/5dc48207-e5aa-472e-90ae-df06e225d320"},"modified":"2024-01-16T16:39:59","modified_gmt":"2024-01-16T15:39:59","slug":"anna-lapwood-interview-the-tiktok-organist-on-women-composers-social-media-and-the-power-of-practice","status":"publish","type":"rss_feed","link":"https:\/\/c01.purpledshub.com\/bbcmusicmagazine\/rss_feed\/anna-lapwood-interview-the-tiktok-organist-on-women-composers-social-media-and-the-power-of-practice\/","title":{"rendered":"Anna Lapwood interview: the \u2018TikTok organist\u2019 on women composers, social media and the power of practice"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"rssexcerpt\"><\/p><p class=\"rssauthor\">By <\/p><p class=\"rssbyline\">Published: Tuesday, 16 January 2024 at 14:48 PM<\/p><hr class=\"no-tts wp-block-separator\"\/><?xml version=\"1.0\" encoding=\"UTF-8\" standalone=\"yes\"?>\n<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><body><p>The evening before I interviewed <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.classical-music.com\/features\/artists\/who-is-anna-lapwood\">Anna Lapwood<\/a><\/strong> \u2013 in her room at Pembroke College, Cambridge, where<br\/>she is director of music \u2013 she had been in London to receive an accolade called \u2018Gamechanger\u2019 at the annual Royal Philharmonic Society Awards ceremony. \u2018They said it was for creating a new blueprint for classical music,\u2019 she tells me proudly. But I didn\u2019t really need the explanation. I had already encountered two startling examples of how this remarkable organist, still only 28, has been \u2018changing the game\u2019.<\/p><p>The first had been a few days earlier, when I walked into the chapel of the Royal Hospital School (a venerable independent school with naval connections on the banks of the River Stour in Suffolk) to be greeted by a roar of sound. It was a huge pipe organ blasting out what sounded like hundreds of notes a second at a decibel level that must have made strong trees quiver for miles around.<\/p><p>What was being played, however, was not a <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.classical-music.com\/features\/composers\/johann-sebastian-bach\">Bach<\/a><\/strong> fugue or some other evergreen from the traditional organ repertoire. It was a theme from a Disney movie, dressed up virtuosically like one of those flamboyant toccatas by <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.classical-music.com\/articles\/six-best-moments-widors-symphonies\">Widor<\/a><\/strong> or Vierne.<\/p><p>No sooner had I recovered from this culture shock, however, than the figure up in the organ loft launched into something equally familiar yet also strangely different: <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.classical-music.com\/features\/composers\/frederic-chopin\">Chopin<\/a><\/strong>\u2019s <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.classical-music.com\/features\/musical-terms\/nocturne-definition\">Nocturne<\/a><\/strong> in E flat for piano, but again transformed so it wafted across the chapel cloaked in flute and string sounds, with the pedal notes as rhythmic as a jazz pizzicato bass.<\/p><figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\"><iframe title=\"Anna Lapwood - Cornfield Chase (From &quot;Interstellar&quot;)\" width=\"800\" height=\"450\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/fyxq39JN_sE?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" allowfullscreen=\"\"\/><\/div><\/figure><p>This was Lapwood recording her forthcoming <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.classical-music.com\/reviews\/instrumental\/luna-anna-lapwood\">album <em>Luna<\/em><\/a><\/strong>, the fruit of a new contract with Sony Classical. \u2018There are only two traditional organ pieces on it,\u2019 she says. \u2018But that\u2019s the fun of it. So many great organists out there can play the traditional organ repertoire far better than I can. What really excites me is taking a piece such as <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.classical-music.com\/features\/composers\/claude-debussy\">Debussy<\/a><\/strong>\u2019s \u201cClair de lune\u201d, which I have played on the piano for years, and thinking: \u201cHow can I make this work on the organ, and also say something different with it?\u201d<\/p><p>\u2018It\u2019s something I used to do all the time as a kid: sit at the piano, basically working out how to play by ear film scores I\u2019d just heard in the cinema. My thinking now is that playing something really familiar on the organ, like a <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.classical-music.com\/features\/tv-and-film-music\/best-disney-soundtracks\">Disney film score<\/a><\/strong>, is a great way to attract new audiences to the organ.\u2019<\/p><h2 id=\"h-anna-lapwood-on-tiktok\">Anna Lapwood on TikTok<\/h2><p>But not the only way \u2013 which brings us to the second \u2018game-changing\u2019 thing I knew about Lapwood before meeting her. She has become known \u2013 whether as a compliment or, possibly, a slightly sniffy putdown \u2013 as \u2018<strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.tiktok.com\/@annalapwoodorgan?lang=en\">the TikTok organist<\/a><\/strong>\u2019. It\u2019s an epithet that Lapwood welcomes without any misgivings at all. Indeed, around the time that we met she tweeted an extraordinary statistic: that she had just acquired her 500,000th follower on TikTok. In fact, the figure is now 700,700, and she has also notched up a jaw-dropping 21.6 million \u2018likes\u2019 for the music she posts there.<\/p><figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-tiktok wp-block-embed-tiktok\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\"><blockquote class=\"tiktok-embed\" cite=\"https:\/\/www.tiktok.com\/@annalapwoodorgan\/video\/7100167458538982662\" data-video-id=\"7100167458538982662\" data-embed-from=\"oembed\" style=\"max-width: 605px;min-width: 325px;\"> <section> <a target=\"_blank\" title=\"@annalapwoodorgan\" href=\"https:\/\/www.tiktok.com\/@annalapwoodorgan?refer=embed\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">@annalapwoodorgan<\/a> <p>This was not how I was expecting to spend my Friday night. @royal_albert_hall @Bonobo <a title=\"organ\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.tiktok.com\/tag\/organ?refer=embed\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">#organ<\/a> <a title=\"organist\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.tiktok.com\/tag\/organist?refer=embed\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">#organist<\/a> <a title=\"pipeorgan\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.tiktok.com\/tag\/pipeorgan?refer=embed\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">#pipeorgan<\/a> <a title=\"playlikeagirl\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.tiktok.com\/tag\/playlikeagirl?refer=embed\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">#playlikeagirl<\/a> <a title=\"royalalberthall\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.tiktok.com\/tag\/royalalberthall?refer=embed\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">#royalalberthall<\/a><\/p> <a target=\"_blank\" title=\"\u266c original sound - Anna Lapwood | Organist\" href=\"https:\/\/www.tiktok.com\/music\/original-sound-7100167440894216965?refer=embed\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">\u266c original sound &#8211; Anna Lapwood | Organist<\/a> <\/section> <\/blockquote> <script async=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/www.tiktok.com\/embed.js\"\/><\/div><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\"><em>Anna Lapwood closes for Bonobo at the Royal Albert Hall after his band heard her practise<\/em><\/figcaption><\/figure><p>\u2018People in classical music are always asking how they can reach a wider audience,\u2019 she says. \u2018The bizarrely simple answer is social media. It genuinely works. I saw a statistic recently saying that young people are spending on average six hours a day on TikTok and other social media. That may seem horrific, but if it\u2019s true we had better make sure they are seeing classical music there for at least some of the time. We need to make ourselves relevant.\u2019<\/p><p>Which she has certainly done. But do all those TikTok followers convert into posteriors on seats at Lapwood\u2019s concerts? \u2018Yes, they really do,\u2019 she replies. \u2018They hear me play film music on TikTok, then they come to a recital and hear me play something more serious, such as the <em>Four Sea Interludes <\/em>from <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.classical-music.com\/features\/recordings\/peter-grimes-britten\">Britten\u2019s <em>Peter Grimes<\/em><\/a><\/strong>, and they enjoy it because, actually, it sounds just like film music.\u2019<\/p><h2>What other instruments does Anna Lapwood play?<\/h2><p>What\u2019s indisputable is that, in just a few years, Lapwood has become one of the most famous organists in the world \u2013 in the same league as American superstars such as the late Carlo Curley and the current \u2018crossover\u2019 sensation Cameron Carpenter. And, remarkably, the organ isn\u2019t even her first instrument. Growing up in Oxford, she started learning piano at the age of four. \u2018But my older brother was learning different instruments at school, and I would watch him practise and beg my parents for lessons,\u2019 she recalls. \u2018That happened with about seven different instruments. That\u2019s when I also started to transfer music between different instruments. I would take a piece I was scratching away at on the violin and play it on the piano to see how it sounded and how I could harmonise it.\u2019<\/p><p>At primary school, however, true love hit her. \u2018We had this amazing harp teacher at the school, and she inspired so many of us to play these little folk harps. We even had a harp orchestra. I got very serious about it. Soon I was studying <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.classical-music.com\/features\/instruments\/what-is-a-harp\">harp<\/a><\/strong> at Junior Academy [the Saturday classes for talented schoolchildren at the Royal Academy of Music]. Then I became principal harpist with the National Youth Orchestra.\u2019<\/p><p>By her mid-teens, Lapwood says, she was \u2018totally set\u2019 on becoming a professional harpist in a symphony orchestra. \u2018My parents even sent me to do work experience in a harp shop! I told them it was a terrible idea. I knew I would fall in love with one of the instruments there. And I did. At least I got a hefty discount on it.\u2019<\/p><p>So, when did the organ first intrude on her life? \u2018When I was about 14,\u2019 she replies. \u2018My father was the chaplain in a boys\u2019 prep school and we lived on site, so I basically grew up around churches and chapels. One day my mother said to me: \u201cWhy don\u2019t you take up the organ? You know, if you get into Oxford or Cambridge, the organ scholars get grand pianos in their rooms.\u201d\u2019<\/p><h2>Is the organ difficult to play?<\/h2><p>The carrot worked, but Lapwood found she wasn\u2019t a natural. \u2018The <strong>organ<\/strong> was the hardest instrument I had ever tried to play, and I really didn\u2019t like it at first. It was that classic problem of left hand and pedal \u2013 trying to sever the link in your brain that says the left hand is the bass, when suddenly it\u2019s the middle part. You sit there thinking, \u201cWhy are my limbs not doing what I want?\u201d But in a way I\u2019m glad I went through that stage, because now I can say to young players, \u201cPersevere, because there will be a eureka moment when the wiring in your head starts to adapt.\u201d\u2019<\/p><p>It adapted in Lapwood\u2019s head so well that, three years later, she won an organ scholarship to Magdalen College, Oxford. That, however, presented her with yet another steep learning curve. \u2018It was a real baptism of fire. I had never accompanied a choir on the organ before I turned up, never played for psalms, and here I was expected to do eight services a week. In my first term it was like living in a foreign country and not speaking the language. I even got as far as writing a resignation letter.<\/p><p>\u2018But then I had a long chat with myself. I decided I was going to practise eight hours a day and see if I got better. After that I started to enjoy myself. But I kept on doing six to eight hours daily practice through my three years there, and didn\u2019t sleep much. Had I not done that, I wouldn\u2019t be sitting here now.\u2019<\/p><figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\"><iframe title=\"How does a pipe organ actually work? | Anna Lapwood | Classic FM\" width=\"800\" height=\"450\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/TzK-tYFGQx4?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" allowfullscreen=\"\"\/><\/div><\/figure><h2>From organ loft to choir stalls: how Anna Lapwood became the youngest music director at an Oxbridge college<\/h2><p>Lapwood graduated at Oxford, only to be plunged in at the deep end again at \u2018the other place\u2019. At the age of 21 she was appointed to run the music \u2013 including the chapel choir \u2013 at Pembroke College, Cambridge. Some of the students in the choir were older than she was. \u2018I had to learn quickly what didn\u2019t work, which was standing at the front and getting cross,\u2019 she laughs. \u2018At Magdalen I had been working with a choir of sort-of professionals. At Pembroke it\u2019s different. They are volunteers. The attitude at first was, \u201cIf we\u2019re late for rehearsals, what are you going to do?\u201d I had to make them want to be there.\u2019<\/p><p>She also instigated two crucial innovations. The first was to start a girls\u2019 choir, for 11- to 18-year-olds. \u2018There are 16 of them now, and they can sing in eight-part harmony. They love that: the responsibility of holding their own line.\u2019 <\/p><blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote\"><p>\u2018I learned quickly that what doesn\u2019t work is standing at the front and getting cross\u2019<\/p><\/blockquote><p>The other was to schedule a piece of music by a woman composer in every service for a whole year. \u2018The result was that by the end of that period we had built up a core repertoire of choral music by women composers that the congregation and the choir loved. It was liberating. Now the split between male and female composers is 50\/50, and it\u2019s not a big issue anymore.\u2019<\/p><figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\"><iframe title=\"Drop Down Ye Heavens\" width=\"800\" height=\"450\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/k-MZyvLSFg0?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" allowfullscreen=\"\"\/><\/div><\/figure><h2>Lapwood's campaign for women composers<\/h2><p>Both initiatives spring from Lapwood\u2019s fervent desire to promote women in classical music generally, and the choral and organ world particularly. \u2018We aren\u2019t at anything like parity yet,\u2019 she says. \u2018The percentage of women doing organ recitals is still pitifully small \u2013 around ten per cent. And the percentage directing the music in cathedrals is even smaller.\u2019<\/p><p>That\u2019s one issue she has turned into a campaign. The other is indignation at the cuts imposed on classical music in the past year by Arts Council England and other leading funding organisations. \u2018We are in a fight now, and everyone in the classical music world has to be ready to stand up for what we believe in,\u2019 she declares. \u2018The decisions being made seem based on very ignorant stereotypes of what classical music is, and what the groups facing cuts have been doing, which is often to be at the forefront of encouraging diversity and taking music to a wider public.\u2019<\/p><blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote\"><p>\u2018The percentage of women doing organ recitals is still pitifully small\u2019<\/p><\/blockquote><h2>Is classical music elitist \u2013 and is that a problem?<\/h2><p>Isn\u2019t one main problem the accusation that classical music is \u2018elitist\u2019? \u2018But in sport the word \u201celite\u201d is not seen as having a negative connotation,\u2019 Lapwood replies. \u2018Quite the opposite. It\u2019s seen as an aspiration, something that people are proud of. Elite musicians have worked really hard to get where they are. They will be the people inspiring the next generation to take up music \u2013 but not if they are being squeezed so much that they can\u2019t make music anymore.\u2019<\/p><p>Lapwood isn\u2019t going to stop campaigning on this issue, even if it does feel like banging her head against the proverbial brick wall. \u2018I spoke about this recently to an all-party parliamentary group on music education, and found everyone in the room was in agreement,\u2019 she says. \u2018But the real challenge is to reach those who weren\u2019t in the room, and make them listen.\u2019<\/p> <\/body><\/html>\n<hr class=\"no-tts wp-block-separator\"\/>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>By Published: Tuesday, 16 January 2024 at 14:48 PM The evening before I interviewed Anna Lapwood \u2013 in her room at Pembroke College, Cambridge, whereshe is director of music \u2013 she had been in London to receive an accolade called \u2018Gamechanger\u2019 at the annual Royal Philharmonic Society Awards ceremony. \u2018They said it was for creating [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":24,"featured_media":38186,"template":"","categories":[1],"acf":{"readingTimeMinutes":"9"},"uagb_featured_image_src":{"full":["https:\/\/c01.purpledshub.com\/uploads\/sites\/37\/2024\/01\/anna-lapwood-interview-the-tiktok-organist-on-women-composers-social-media-and-the-power-of-practice.jpg",1890,1465,false],"thumbnail":["https:\/\/c01.purpledshub.com\/uploads\/sites\/37\/2024\/01\/anna-lapwood-interview-the-tiktok-organist-on-women-composers-social-media-and-the-power-of-practice-150x150.jpg",150,150,true],"medium":["https:\/\/c01.purpledshub.com\/uploads\/sites\/37\/2024\/01\/anna-lapwood-interview-the-tiktok-organist-on-women-composers-social-media-and-the-power-of-practice-300x233.jpg",300,233,true],"medium_large":["https:\/\/c01.purpledshub.com\/uploads\/sites\/37\/2024\/01\/anna-lapwood-interview-the-tiktok-organist-on-women-composers-social-media-and-the-power-of-practice-768x595.jpg",768,595,true],"large":["https:\/\/c01.purpledshub.com\/uploads\/sites\/37\/2024\/01\/anna-lapwood-interview-the-tiktok-organist-on-women-composers-social-media-and-the-power-of-practice-1024x794.jpg",800,620,true],"1536x1536":["https:\/\/c01.purpledshub.com\/uploads\/sites\/37\/2024\/01\/anna-lapwood-interview-the-tiktok-organist-on-women-composers-social-media-and-the-power-of-practice-1536x1191.jpg",1536,1191,true],"2048x2048":["https:\/\/c01.purpledshub.com\/uploads\/sites\/37\/2024\/01\/anna-lapwood-interview-the-tiktok-organist-on-women-composers-social-media-and-the-power-of-practice.jpg",1890,1465,false]},"uagb_author_info":{"display_name":"importmanagerhub@sprylab.com","author_link":"https:\/\/c01.purpledshub.com\/bbcmusicmagazine\/author\/importmanagerhubsprylab-com\/"},"uagb_comment_info":0,"uagb_excerpt":"By Published: Tuesday, 16 January 2024 at 14:48 PM The evening before I interviewed Anna Lapwood \u2013 in her room at Pembroke College, Cambridge, whereshe is director of music \u2013 she had been in London to receive an accolade called \u2018Gamechanger\u2019 at the annual Royal Philharmonic Society Awards ceremony. \u2018They said it was for creating&hellip;","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/c01.purpledshub.com\/bbcmusicmagazine\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/rss_feed\/38185"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/c01.purpledshub.com\/bbcmusicmagazine\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/rss_feed"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/c01.purpledshub.com\/bbcmusicmagazine\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/rss_feed"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/c01.purpledshub.com\/bbcmusicmagazine\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/24"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/c01.purpledshub.com\/bbcmusicmagazine\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/38186"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/c01.purpledshub.com\/bbcmusicmagazine\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=38185"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/c01.purpledshub.com\/bbcmusicmagazine\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=38185"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}