{"id":16100,"date":"2022-08-15T00:00:00","date_gmt":"2022-08-14T22:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/c01.purpledshub.com\/bbcsciencefocus\/?post_type=purple_issue&#038;p=16100"},"modified":"2022-08-22T11:36:49","modified_gmt":"2022-08-22T09:36:49","slug":"dr-julia-shaw-how-to-create-a-virtual-child","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/c01.purpledshub.com\/bbcsciencefocus\/2022\/08\/15\/dr-julia-shaw-how-to-create-a-virtual-child\/","title":{"rendered":"Dr Julia Shaw: How to create a virtual child"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<h5 class=\"has-text-align-center article-standfirst\"><span class=\"has-inline-color has-ccp-brown-color\">COMMENT<\/span><\/h5>\n\n<h3 class=\"has-text-align-center\"><span class=\"has-inline-color has-ccp-primary-dark-color\"><strong>DR JULIA SHAW<\/strong>:<\/span><\/h3>\n\n<h3 class=\"has-text-align-center\">HOW TO CREATE A VIRTUAL CHILD<\/h3>\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center intro\">Criminal psychologists and computer scientists are using virtual avatars to train people how to interview vulnerable children <\/p>\n\n<figure class=\"no-tts wp-block-image alignfull is-style-default\"><img src=\"https:\/\/dj9jqhxgw9833.cloudfront.net\/uploads\/sites\/42\/2022\/08\/654862cb-30b9-4dfa-844f-f7872116d1b7.jpg\" alt=\"\"\/><\/figure>\n\n<p class=\"has-drop-cap article-full-body sans-serif\"><span class=\"has-inline-color has-ccp-primary-dark-color\">A<\/span>sk a child a question, and you will quickly learn that many of their answers are quite scattered. You ask how their day was, and they respond with a story about how much they like turtles. Try again, perhaps more specific this time, and you might get a curt \u201cyes\u201d. Children respond to questions in such literal and lateral ways that there is a whole section of parenting literature that deals with teaching children how to answer questions. But what about asking the right questions? <\/p>\n\n<p class=\"article-full-body sans-serif\">When you are concerned that something bad has happened, those hard-to-get answers become all the more frustrating. They can become a problem for safeguarding children or investigating a crime. <\/p>\n\n<p class=\"article-full-body sans-serif\">Children aren\u2019t tiny adults, and this means that teachers, social workers, judges, police, paediatricians and psychologists can all benefit from training on how to interview children. The issue is that training people how to question vulnerable children is no easy task. Interviewing skills are all about learning the evidence-based guidelines, then getting the opportunity to practise and feedback. It\u2019s unethical to train on actual children, so courses improvise. <\/p>\n\n<p class=\"article-full-body sans-serif\">Some training courses hire actors to play children. <\/p>\n\n<p class=\"article-full-body sans-serif\">But others are turning to a new approach. <span>In place of a well-meaning adult pretending to be a child, a simulation could be the next best thing.<\/span><\/p>\n\n<p class=\"article-full-body sans-serif\">Doctors use them to train for surgeries, F1 drivers use them whenever they\u2019re away from a track. Now, researchers have created digital children where child lookalikes are programmed to have \u2018memories\u2019 and answer questions like real children do. Your task is to figure out if something bad happened to the virtual children. <\/p>\n\n<p class=\"article-full-body sans-serif\">What exactly these virtual children look like depends on the team. Some are realistic, made to look, move and sound as close to real children as possible by using realistic game characters or deepfakes. But this has led to problems with the \u2018uncanny valley\u2019, which is when something creeps us out because it looks <em>almost <\/em>real but not close enough to be convincing. This has led some researchers to create virtual children that look and sound like game characters instead. <\/p>\n\n<p class=\"article-full-body sans-serif\">The first vulnerable child avatars were created by a team of Finnish and Italian researchers. In a study the team published in 2014, people interviewed the digital children and the goal was to find out whether they had a \u2018memory\u2019 of something bad. Like in real life, only some of the avatar children were programmed to have \u2018experienced\u2019 something bad.<\/p>\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote has-text-align-center is-style-large\"><p><span class=\"has-inline-color has-ccp-primary-dark-color\"><strong><em>\u201cVirtual children have the potential to revolutionise investigative interview training\u201d <\/em><\/strong><\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n<p class=\"article-full-body sans-serif\">The researchers accounted for how suggestible children are. For example, if someone asked one of the avatar children the same suggestive question three times, the third time the child would change their answer from \u2018no\u2019 to \u2018yes\u2019. This is to mimic when children say something that is untrue because of how they have been questioned. <\/p>\n\n<p class=\"article-full-body sans-serif\">People who were given feedback after each interview got better at asking open questions in a short period of time. They also came to more correct conclusions about whether there were safeguarding concerns. These promising results prompted other teams to try to make their own virtual children. <\/p>\n\n<p class=\"article-full-body sans-serif\">One German team created avatars in virtual reality classrooms. In a VR context it feels like you are sitting across from the child, rather than looking at them on a screen, which can make the interaction more realistic. The virtual children\u2019s \u2018memories\u2019 are also based on real cases. <\/p>\n\n<p class=\"article-full-body sans-serif\">Children need to trust you. They also require reassurance, or they might suddenly clam up. <\/p>\n\n<p class=\"article-full-body sans-serif\">This is something the German researchers have built into their simulations. For the VR children to tell you what happened, you need to start with neutral or positive topics. This is a technique that most people who work with children will know as a way to build rapport. You are also more likely to get useful details if you make reassuring comments. <\/p>\n\n<p class=\"article-full-body sans-serif\">The newest project to date is by an international team of computer scientists and psychologists. They want to create a standalone AI child. In June 2022, the team explained that they synthesised a talking child avatar from 1,000 transcripts of mock interviews using actors trained to behave like children. This is just for the initial testing, as they plan to train the AI on interviews with actual children soon. It\u2019ll be interesting to see what happens when human coders are taken out of the picture. Will an AI child be able to sufficiently mimic a real one? <\/p>\n\n<p class=\"article-full-body sans-serif\">All this research is so fresh that the tools are not available in mainstream settings. But results so far are promising. Virtual children have the potential to revolutionise investigative interview training. <\/p>\n\n<p class=\"article-full-body sans-serif\">That is, once researchers figure out how to make the avatars less creepy\u2026 <\/p>\n\n<div class=\"no-tts wp-block-image article-in-image photo\"><figure class=\"no-tts alignleft size-large is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/dj9jqhxgw9833.cloudfront.net\/uploads\/sites\/42\/2022\/05\/842de3b5-073e-4e71-b44d-1e088cdd2e12.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"no-tts wp-image-13191\" width=\"83\" height=\"92\" srcset=\"https:\/\/c01.purpledshub.com\/uploads\/sites\/42\/2022\/05\/842de3b5-073e-4e71-b44d-1e088cdd2e12.jpg 364w, https:\/\/c01.purpledshub.com\/uploads\/sites\/42\/2022\/05\/842de3b5-073e-4e71-b44d-1e088cdd2e12-270x300.jpg 270w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 83px) 100vw, 83px\" \/><\/figure><\/div>\n\n<h5 class=\"article-subhead\"><span class=\"has-inline-color has-ccp-primary-dark-color\">DR JULIA SHAW<\/span><\/h5>\n\n<p class=\"article-full-body sans-serif\">(<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/drjuliashaw\" data-type=\"URL\" data-id=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/drjuliashaw\"><em>@drjuliashaw<\/em><\/a>) Julia is a psychological scientist at University College London, the author of multiple best-selling books, and the co-host of the hit podcast <em>Bad People <\/em>on<em> <\/em>BBC Sounds.<\/p>\n\n<section class=\"wp-block-uagb-section uagb-section__wrap uagb-section__background-color uagb-block-bfc1b438-87e7-4697-bfe0-2bc7c85d2677 article-boxout\"><div class=\"uagb-section__overlay\"><\/div><div class=\"uagb-section__inner-wrap\">\n<div class=\"no-tts wp-block-image article-in-image bild\"><figure class=\"no-tts alignleft size-large is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/dj9jqhxgw9833.cloudfront.net\/uploads\/sites\/42\/2022\/06\/BBC-sounds-logo_main-960x480-1-1024x573.jpeg\" alt=\"\" class=\"no-tts wp-image-13489\" width=\"56\" height=\"31\" srcset=\"https:\/\/c01.purpledshub.com\/uploads\/sites\/42\/2022\/06\/BBC-sounds-logo_main-960x480-1-1024x573.jpeg 1024w, https:\/\/c01.purpledshub.com\/uploads\/sites\/42\/2022\/06\/BBC-sounds-logo_main-960x480-1-300x168.jpeg 300w, https:\/\/c01.purpledshub.com\/uploads\/sites\/42\/2022\/06\/BBC-sounds-logo_main-960x480-1-768x430.jpeg 768w, https:\/\/c01.purpledshub.com\/uploads\/sites\/42\/2022\/06\/BBC-sounds-logo_main-960x480-1.jpeg 1430w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 56px) 100vw, 56px\" \/><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"article-full-body sans-serif\"><span class=\"has-inline-color has-ccp-primary-light-color\">Listen to Dr Julia Shaw on the <em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.bbc.co.uk\/sounds\/brand\/p08lj2sz\" data-type=\"URL\" data-id=\"https:\/\/www.bbc.co.uk\/sounds\/brand\/p08lj2sz\">Bad People<\/a> <\/em>podcast, available on BBC Sounds.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div><\/section>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>COMMENT DR JULIA SHAW: HOW TO CREATE A VIRTUAL CHILD Criminal psychologists and computer scientists are using virtual avatars to train people how to interview vulnerable children Ask a child a question, and you will quickly learn that many of their answers are quite scattered. 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