{"id":62593,"date":"2024-08-10T07:45:00","date_gmt":"2024-08-10T07:45:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/d732449d-2b77-4bc8-b02d-c7eaa4c2ed08"},"modified":"2024-08-10T08:39:45","modified_gmt":"2024-08-10T08:39:45","slug":"jupiters-great-red-spot-may-not-be-the-same-storm-that-was-first-observed-over-350-years-ago","status":"publish","type":"rss_feed","link":"https:\/\/c01.purpledshub.com\/bbcskyatnight\/rss_feed\/jupiters-great-red-spot-may-not-be-the-same-storm-that-was-first-observed-over-350-years-ago\/","title":{"rendered":"Jupiter&#8217;s Great Red Spot may not be the same storm that was first observed over 350 years ago"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"rssexcerpt\">Is the giant storm we see today different to the one first seen in 1665? <\/p><p class=\"rssauthor\">By Iain Todd\n      <\/p><p class=\"rssbyline\">Published: Saturday, 10 August 2024 at 07:45 AM<\/p><hr class=\"no-tts wp-block-separator\"\/><?xml version=\"1.0\" encoding=\"UTF-8\" standalone=\"yes\"?>\n<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><body><p>For almost two centuries, astronomers have been arguing over whether the Great Red Spot we see on Jupiter today is the same feature as a similar mark first observed by Giovanni Cassini in 1665.<\/p><p>The <a href=\"https:\/\/www.skyatnightmagazine.com\/astrophotography\/planets\/jupiter-great-red-spot\">Great Red Spot<\/a> is an Earth-sized storm raging on Jupiter, and is the gas giant planet&#8217;s most recognisable feature.<\/p><figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">A view of Jupiter&#8217;s Great Red Spot captured by the Juno spacecraft and processed by citizen scientist Kevin M Gill. Image data: NASA\/JPL-Caltech\/SwRI\/MSSSImage processing by Kevin M. Gill, \u00a9 CC BY<\/figcaption><\/figure><p>But is the storm we see today the same one that was recorded by the great Italian astronomer centuries ago?<\/p><p>A new set of simulations may have settled the debate once and for all, suggesting our spot and Cassini\u2019s are two separate things.<\/p><figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/c02.purpledshub.com\/uploads\/sites\/48\/2024\/08\/cassini-sketch-jupiter-1024x574.jpg?fit=800%2C448\" alt=\"The Great Red Spot (left) and what Cassini drew in the 1600s (right) are likely to be different features.\" class=\"wp-image-159952\" data-recalc-dims=\"1\"\/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">The Great Red Spot (left) and what Cassini drew in the 1600s (right) are likely to be different features.<\/figcaption><\/figure><h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-history-of-observing-the-great-red-spot\"><strong>History of observing the Great Red Spot<\/strong><\/h2><p>After Cassini first noticed what he referred to as the Permanent Spot, he and others observed the feature continuously until 1713, when it vanished from the record for 118 years.<\/p><p>Then in 1831, astronomers again started to see a clear, oval structure on the planet, at the same latitude as the Permanent Spot.<\/p><p>This Great Red Spot has been continuously monitored for over 190 years and is now known to be a huge vortex in Jupiter\u2019s upper atmosphere.<\/p><p>However, it remained unclear whether the feature is the same as Cassini\u2019s Permanent Spot or a completely new weather system.<\/p><figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1200\" height=\"1137\" src=\"https:\/\/c02.purpledshub.com\/uploads\/sites\/48\/2020\/08\/Voyager-Jupiter-d79ec02-1.png\" alt=\"An image of Jupiter and its Great Red Spot, captured during the Voyager mission. Credit: NASA\/JPL-Caltech\" class=\"wp-image-51714\"\/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">An image of Jupiter and its Great Red Spot, captured during the Voyager mission. Credit: NASA\/JPL-Caltech<\/figcaption><\/figure><h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-the-same-storm\"><strong>The same storm?<\/strong><\/h2><p>To find the answer, a team used observations of the planet from the last few decades \u2013 including those taken by the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.skyatnightmagazine.com\/space-missions\/nasa-juno-mission-jupiter\">Juno probe currently in orbit<\/a> \u2013 to create simulations of how the Great Red Spot formed.<\/p><p>These investigated three different potential formation methods.<\/p><p>Two of these methods \u2013 one where the Great Red Spot is the product of a giant superstorm; another where it is several smaller vortices combined \u2013 didn\u2019t produce the kind of storm we see today.<\/p><p>The third method, however, took a look at instabilities caused by the fast-flowing jet streams that flow parallel to the band where the Great Red Spot resides, but in the opposite direction.<\/p><p>In this case, the simulations did result in a system similar to the Great Red Spot.<\/p><figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1200\" height=\"800\" src=\"https:\/\/c02.purpledshub.com\/uploads\/sites\/48\/2019\/08\/Jupiter-Juno-aa01b7c-e1660812643275.jpg\" alt=\"An artist's depiction of the Juno spacecraft in orbit above Jupiter's Great Red Spot. Credit: NASA\/JPL-Caltech\" class=\"wp-image-39736\"\/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">An artist&#8217;s depiction of the Juno spacecraft in orbit above Jupiter&#8217;s Great Red Spot. Credit: NASA\/JPL-Caltech<\/figcaption><\/figure><p>The study then compared this simulation to historical records, tracking how the Great Red Spot has changed over time.<\/p><p>In 1879, the Great Red Spot was around 39,000km (24,200 miles) at its widest, but now measures just 14,000km (8,700 miles) across.<\/p><p>Comparing these changes with the simulations suggests the Great Red Spot first formed in the 19th century, long after the Permanent Spot seen by Cassini disappeared.<\/p><p>&#8220;From the measurements of sizes and movements, we deduced that it is highly unlikely that the current Great Red Spot was the \u2018Permanent Spot\u2019 observed by Cassini,&#8221; says Agust\u00edn S\u00e1nchez-Lavega from the University of the Basque Country in Bilbao, Spain, who led the study.<\/p><figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1500\" height=\"1087\" src=\"https:\/\/c02.purpledshub.com\/uploads\/sites\/48\/2019\/12\/12-Rouzbeh-Bidshahri-Jupiter-027424d-e1624365704819.jpg\" alt=\"Jupiter and Great Red Spot as seen through 'amateur' equipment. Credit: Rouzbeh Bidshahri\" class=\"wp-image-43368\"\/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Jupiter and Great Red Spot as seen through &#8216;amateur&#8217; equipment. Credit: Rouzbeh Bidshahri<\/figcaption><\/figure><h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-observing-the-great-red-spot\"><strong>Observing the Great Red Spot<\/strong><\/h2><p><em>Words: Chris Lintott<\/em><\/p><p>The Great Red Spot is the second most recognisable planetary feature behind <a href=\"https:\/\/www.skyatnightmagazine.com\/space-science\/a-guide-to-the-rings-of-saturn\">Saturn\u2019s rings<\/a>.<\/p><p>I remember being gobsmacked when viewing the planet through Patrick Moore\u2019s 12.5-inch reflector, where the Great Red Spot seemed to have faded very nearly completely.<\/p><p>More recently, the spot seemed to develop red \u2018flakes\u2019, which turned out to be gas being pulled into the eye of the living, breathing storm.<\/p><p>When it does fade away completely \u2013 which might happen in the next decade or so \u2013 it\u2019ll be a sad day for back garden observers everywhere.<\/p><p>But this new research has a silver lining, suggesting a new spot will be along soon, just as our spot replaced Cassini\u2019s.<\/p><p><strong><em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.ehu.eus\/en\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">www.ehu.eus\/en<\/a><\/em><\/strong><\/p><p><strong><em>This article appeared in the September 2024 issue of BBC Sky at Night Magazine<\/em><\/strong><\/p> <\/body><\/html>\n<hr class=\"no-tts wp-block-separator\"\/>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Is the giant storm we see today different to the one first seen in 1665? <\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":24,"featured_media":62594,"template":"","categories":[1],"acf":{"readingTimeMinutes":"4"},"uagb_featured_image_src":{"full":["https:\/\/c01.purpledshub.com\/uploads\/sites\/77\/2024\/08\/jupiters-great-red-spot-may-not-be-the-same-storm-that-was-first-observed-over-350-years-ago.jpg",1200,1137,false],"thumbnail":["https:\/\/c01.purpledshub.com\/uploads\/sites\/77\/2024\/08\/jupiters-great-red-spot-may-not-be-the-same-storm-that-was-first-observed-over-350-years-ago-150x150.jpg",150,150,true],"medium":["https:\/\/c01.purpledshub.com\/uploads\/sites\/77\/2024\/08\/jupiters-great-red-spot-may-not-be-the-same-storm-that-was-first-observed-over-350-years-ago-300x284.jpg",300,284,true],"medium_large":["https:\/\/c01.purpledshub.com\/uploads\/sites\/77\/2024\/08\/jupiters-great-red-spot-may-not-be-the-same-storm-that-was-first-observed-over-350-years-ago-768x728.jpg",768,728,true],"large":["https:\/\/c01.purpledshub.com\/uploads\/sites\/77\/2024\/08\/jupiters-great-red-spot-may-not-be-the-same-storm-that-was-first-observed-over-350-years-ago-1024x970.jpg",800,758,true],"1536x1536":["https:\/\/c01.purpledshub.com\/uploads\/sites\/77\/2024\/08\/jupiters-great-red-spot-may-not-be-the-same-storm-that-was-first-observed-over-350-years-ago.jpg",1200,1137,false],"2048x2048":["https:\/\/c01.purpledshub.com\/uploads\/sites\/77\/2024\/08\/jupiters-great-red-spot-may-not-be-the-same-storm-that-was-first-observed-over-350-years-ago.jpg",1200,1137,false]},"uagb_author_info":{"display_name":"importmanagerhub@sprylab.com","author_link":"https:\/\/c01.purpledshub.com\/bbcskyatnight\/author\/importmanagerhubsprylab-com\/"},"uagb_comment_info":0,"uagb_excerpt":"Is the giant storm we see today different to the one first seen in 1665?","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/c01.purpledshub.com\/bbcskyatnight\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/rss_feed\/62593"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/c01.purpledshub.com\/bbcskyatnight\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/rss_feed"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/c01.purpledshub.com\/bbcskyatnight\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/rss_feed"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/c01.purpledshub.com\/bbcskyatnight\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/24"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/c01.purpledshub.com\/bbcskyatnight\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/62594"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/c01.purpledshub.com\/bbcskyatnight\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=62593"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/c01.purpledshub.com\/bbcskyatnight\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=62593"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}