{"id":66062,"date":"2024-11-19T10:39:40","date_gmt":"2024-11-19T10:39:40","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/67fd0e6e-05be-416e-92ab-1bb0ae115026"},"modified":"2024-11-19T11:39:38","modified_gmt":"2024-11-19T11:39:38","slug":"why-is-webb-seeing-black-holes-that-shouldnt-exist-a-team-of-scientists-may-have-found-an-explanation","status":"publish","type":"rss_feed","link":"https:\/\/c01.purpledshub.com\/bbcskyatnight\/rss_feed\/why-is-webb-seeing-black-holes-that-shouldnt-exist-a-team-of-scientists-may-have-found-an-explanation\/","title":{"rendered":"Why is Webb seeing black holes that shouldn&#8217;t exist? A team of scientists may have found an explanation"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"rssexcerpt\"> <\/p><p class=\"rssauthor\">By <\/p><p class=\"rssbyline\">Published: Tuesday, 19 November 2024 at 10:39 AM<\/p><hr class=\"no-tts wp-block-separator\"\/><?xml version=\"1.0\" encoding=\"UTF-8\" standalone=\"yes\"?>\n<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html> <head\/> <body> <p>When the sparkling new James Webb Space Telescope sent back its first images of distant galaxies, the first reaction was surprise.<\/p> <p>There seemed to be more galaxies visible in the early Universe than we expected, they were brighter than many imagined and they had massive black holes that shouldn\u2019t have had time to grow.<\/p> <p>The next reaction was confusion, as existing ideas seemed not to match what was being seen.<\/p> <p>This led to the cry across the internet that <a href=\"https:\/\/www.skyatnightmagazine.com\/space-science\/webb-broken-cosmology\">Webb had &#8216;broken&#8217; cosmology<\/a>.<\/p> <figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\">  <figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\"> James Webb Space Telescope image of JADES-GS-z14-0, a galaxy that existed just 290 million years after the Big Bang. Credit: NASA, ESA, CSA, STScI, B. Robertson (UC Santa Cruz), B. Johnson (CfA), S. Tacchella (Cambridge), P. Cargile (CfA) <\/figcaption> <\/figure> <p>We\u2019ve now reached the stage where new ideas are burgeoning, with seemingly every other astronomer toting a theory about exactly how the black holes in these <a href=\"https:\/\/www.skyatnightmagazine.com\/space-science\/a-guide-to-galaxies\">galaxies<\/a> assemble.\u00a0<\/p> <p>Once you\u2019ve formed a black hole, it can grow by accreting surrounding material, but there\u2019s a limit to how fast that can happen; a maximum rate obeyed in most circumstances, called the Eddington limit, applies.<\/p> <p>This limit comes from the delicate balance between the pull of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.skyatnightmagazine.com\/space-science\/what-is-gravity-facts-about-force\">gravity<\/a> and the resisting pressure caused by radiation from hot material in the accretion disc.<\/p> <figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"> <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1200\" height=\"781\" src=\"https:\/\/c02.purpledshub.com\/uploads\/sites\/48\/2024\/03\/galaxy-JWST-7329.jpg\" alt=\"Youthful galaxy JWST 7329 is far more massive and mature than current models say is possible. Credit: NASA \/ James Webb Space Telescope\" class=\"wp-image-147937\"\/> <figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\"> Youthful galaxy JWST 7329 is far more massive and mature than current models say is possible. Credit: NASA \/ James Webb Space Telescope <\/figcaption> <\/figure> <h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>Solving the early black holes mystery<\/strong><\/h2> <p>Seeing black holes weighing in at tens of millions of solar masses early on in the Universe\u2019s history thus poses a puzzle.<\/p> <p>They\u2019re too big to have started as a stellar-sized <a href=\"https:\/\/www.skyatnightmagazine.com\/space-science\/black-hole\">black hole<\/a> and then grown. But the authors of one study have a solution: forming intermediate-mass black holes directly.\u00a0<\/p> <p>They start by arguing that galaxies in the early Universe are just different from those in the present-day cosmos.<\/p> <p>Today, the speed and efficiency of star formation are regulated by what\u2019s called feedback, processes that impede the birth of new stars.<\/p> <p>If this team are right, in the early Universe the brakes are off. With feedback ineffective, these early galaxies sparkle with thousands of newly formed <a href=\"https:\/\/www.skyatnightmagazine.com\/space-science\/star-clusters-astronomer-guide\">star clusters<\/a>.<\/p> <figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"> <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1280\" height=\"904\" src=\"https:\/\/c02.purpledshub.com\/uploads\/sites\/48\/2024\/02\/how-big-is-universe.jpeg\" alt=\"Early galaxies may be filled with compact star clusters. Credit: ESA\/Hubble &amp; NASA, A. Milone, G. Gilmore\" class=\"wp-image-146349\"\/> <figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\"> Early galaxies may be filled with compact star clusters. Credit: ESA\/Hubble &amp; NASA, A. Milone, G. Gilmore <\/figcaption> <\/figure> <h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>How to form a black hole quickly<\/strong><\/h2> <p>The resulting clusters are much more compact than those in the Universe today.<\/p> <p>That means that interactions between the stars, which may in any case be more massive than normal, can lead to a collapse of the cluster\u2019s core, forming a massive black hole directly without ever needing a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.skyatnightmagazine.com\/space-science\/when-stars-collapse-what-is-a-supernova\">supernova<\/a>.<\/p> <p>The team reckon this could happen within just a few million years.<\/p> <p>This speed is important, as the clusters will soon be disrupted, scattering to the galactic winds.<\/p> <p>If the black holes form first, then this is actually a benefit, as hundreds or even thousands of them will spread through the disc.<\/p> <figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"> <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1200\" height=\"630\" src=\"https:\/\/c02.purpledshub.com\/uploads\/sites\/48\/2023\/06\/betelgeuse-supernova-dangerous-observe.jpg\" alt=\"If the team are right, early black holes may have been able to form without the need to go supernova first. Credit: Magann \/ Getty Images\" class=\"wp-image-148844\"\/> <figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\"> If the team are right, early black holes may have been able to form without the need to go supernova first. Credit: Magann \/ Getty Images <\/figcaption> <\/figure> <p>They will tend to move towards the systems\u2019 centre, thanks to friction with the disc. Once there, they can merge and then grow rapidly as gas flows into the galactic centre.<\/p> <p>It\u2019s an attractive scenario, one that doesn\u2019t need too much new physics, and which might have happened in many different galaxies.<\/p> <p>Not that the mystery is solved. Important questions remain about how, exactly, the cores of the clusters could reach the density needed to form a black hole, and how the black holes would find their way to the galactic centre and stay there, even if disrupted by the kind of major galactic mergers that were common back then.<\/p> <p>We have now reached the phase where hard, detailed work is needed to test this and all the other ideas for rapid black hole formation.<\/p> <p>But this paper is a good start.\u00a0<\/p> <p><strong><em>Chris Lintott was reading <\/em>Growth of Massive Black-Holes in FFB Galaxies at Cosmic Dawn<em> by Avishai Dekell et al. Read it online at: <a href=\"https:\/\/arxiv.org\/abs\/2409.18605\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">arxiv.org\/abs\/2409.18605<\/a>.<\/em><\/strong><\/p> <p><strong><em>This article appeared in the December 2024 issue of BBC Sky at Night Magazine<\/em><\/strong><\/p> <\/body><\/html>\n<hr class=\"no-tts wp-block-separator\"\/>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>By Published: Tuesday, 19 November 2024 at 10:39 AM When the sparkling new James Webb Space Telescope sent back its first images of distant galaxies, the first reaction was surprise. 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