{"id":65650,"date":"2024-06-20T16:00:00","date_gmt":"2024-06-20T14:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/60a7b19d-2fa4-41c9-a3b6-f1689287af10"},"modified":"2024-06-20T16:25:43","modified_gmt":"2024-06-20T14:25:43","slug":"pinarello-announces-lighter-more-aero-disc-brake-only-dogma-f","status":"publish","type":"rss_feed","link":"https:\/\/c01.purpledshub.com\/cyclingplus\/rss_feed\/pinarello-announces-lighter-more-aero-disc-brake-only-dogma-f\/","title":{"rendered":"Pinarello announces lighter, more aero, disc-brake only Dogma F\u00a0"},"content":{"rendered":"

Updated race bike sports 30mm tyre clearance and more slippery tube shapes\u00a0 <\/p>

By Oscar Huckle\n <\/p>

Published: Thursday, 20 June 2024 at 14:00 PM<\/p>

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Pinarello has announced its latest flagship Dogma F all-round race bike, with key updates to the tube profiles to increase aerodynamic performance while shaving weight.\u00a0<\/p>

The new Dogma F also switches to a new carbon construction, has room for 30mm tyres and sports a fresh MOST Talon Ultra Fast integrated handlebar.\u00a0<\/p>

Akin to the outgoing Dogma F<\/a> versus the Dogma F12<\/a>, the new Dogma F represents a series of marginal improvements over its predecessor, rather than a step-change.\u00a0<\/p>

The bike has been two years in development and is said to be built specifically for the Ineos Grenadiers riders so they can have \u201ca faster, better performing bike\u201d for key Grand Tour races.\u00a0<\/p>

The outgoing Dogma F was one of the last road bikes you could still buy with rim brakes<\/a>, but Pinarello has made the decision to make the new Dogma F disc-only. However, Pinarello says it’s going to be continuing production of the previous rim-brake frame for those who want it.\u00a0<\/p>

Complete bikes start at \u00a312,600 \/ $14,500 \/ \u20ac14,500, or a frameset can be purchased for \u00a35,500 \/ $6,950 \/ \u20ac6,700. Australian pricing and availability are to be confirmed.\u00a0<\/p>

Want to know our initial impressions of the new Pinarello Dogma F? Head to our first ride review<\/a>.\u00a0<\/p>

A new carbon fibre construction\u00a0<\/h2>
A new carbon construction was in order. – Oscar Huckle \/ Our Media<\/figcaption><\/figure>
Flagship Pinarello bikes have relied on a Torayca T1100 1K carbon construction for many years.\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>
However, the new Dogma F uses a new Toray M40X carbon fibre, which Pinarello claims has a 53gpa (Gigapascals) tensile-strength advantage, enabling it \u201cto reach the next level of lateral stiffness performance\u201d.\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>
The brand says it has been testing the carbon on its X-Light models and on Ineos Grenadiers\u2019 team bikes for some time.\u00a0<\/p>
$\"Bare$
The new unpainted frameset. – Pinarello<\/figcaption><\/figure>
Carbon frames<\/a> consist of a blend of fibres, with a higher-modulus construction typically found at high-stress areas for added stiffness.\u00a0<\/p>
Pinarello says the new M40X carbon fibre is predominantly found at the revised bottom bracket junction (but more on that later).\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>
You may remember the X-Light bikes carried a low 85kg rider weight limit, but the new Dogma F is rated to 120kg.\u00a0<\/p>
30mm tyre clearance\u00a0<\/h2>
$\"Pinarello$
There’s just a smidge of clearance left with these 28mm Continental GP5000 S TRs. – Oscar Huckle \/ Our Media<\/figcaption><\/figure>
The new Dogma F has room for 30mm road bike tyres<\/a> (width as measured), up from the 28mm rating of its predecessor.\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>
That\u2019s quite conservative compared to its competitors, though, with the Specialized Tarmac SL8<\/a> rated to clear 32mm rubber, while the Cerv\u00e9lo S5<\/a> has room for 34mm tyres.\u00a0<\/p>
When asked if Pinarello considered opting for a more generous clearance, the brand said it would have come at the expense of the frame\u2019s stiffness.\u00a0<\/p>
Aero trumps weight\u00a0<\/h2>
$\"Pinarello$
It’s a Pinarello through-and-through. – Oscar Huckle \/ Our Media<\/figcaption><\/figure>
Unlike most of its competitors who (over time) have developed dedicated climbing bikes<\/a> or aero road bikes<\/a>, Pinarello has always stuck with a one-bike philosophy for racing.\u00a0<\/p>
The new Dogma F continues this ethos, along with the trademark asymmetric tube profiles the brand is known for. The Italian threaded bottom bracket standard<\/a> remains, too.\u00a0<\/p>
That said, Pinarello says it studied Ineos Grenadiers rider Geraint Thomas\u2019 performance data at the 2022 Tour de France, noting his average energy expenditure and balancing that with the potential savings he could make in different riding situations.\u00a0<\/p>
As a result of this study, Pinarello claims it discovered minor improvements in CdA (coefficient of aerodynamic drag) were more valuable than saving weight.\u00a0<\/p>
The new Dogma F\u2019s CdA has been reduced by a claimed 0.2 per cent (a weighted average figure taken from data across different yaw angles), following many small revisions to the tube\u2019s shapes and profiles. Pinarello hasn\u2019t specified the exact yaw angles tested.\u00a0<\/p>
The brand also claims a 108g weight saving for the frameset (in this case, frame, fork, seatpost and integrated handlebar).\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>
And what about compliance? Pinarello suggests this is globally similar to the outgoing model.\u00a0<\/p>
The brand says the chainstays on the new model are stiffer, though, and this is counteracted by the fork, which has become more compliant.\u00a0<\/p>
Marginal gains\u00a0<\/h2>
$\"Pinarello$
The signature channel for the bottle cage remains in the down tube. – Oscar Huckle \/ Our Media<\/figcaption><\/figure>
Pinarello has completely redesigned the down tube to improve the frame\u2019s frontal aerodynamic performance, which sees a reduction in thickness over the outgoing Dogma F.\u00a0<\/p>
The down tube leads to what Pinarello calls a new \u2018Aero-Keel\u2019 bottom bracket \u2013 a girthy junction not dissimilar in appearance to the \u2018Mariana\u2019 bottom bracket design found on the BMC Teammachine R<\/a>.\u00a0<\/p>
$\"Pinarello$
That’s one massive bottom bracket. – Oscar Huckle \/ Our Media<\/figcaption><\/figure>
Like the Teammachine R, the increase in surface area is claimed to smooth airflow and improve stiffness.\u00a0<\/p>
The bottom bracket is said to take its name from how the down tube profile has been rotated by 3.5 degrees where it meets the junction.\u00a0<\/p>
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The new aero head tube and down tube junction. – Oscar Huckle \/ Our Media<\/figcaption><\/figure>
The head tube has also been redesigned, with Pinarello reducing the width of the nose area by 8mm, again to improve its aero performance.\u00a0<\/p>
The new Dogma F also sees the thru-axle inserts in-moulded into both dropouts, with the inserts invisible from the outside faces.\u00a0<\/p>
$\"Pinarello$
Nice and clean\u2026 – Oscar Huckle \/ Our Media<\/figcaption><\/figure>
This not only improves aerodynamics but enables the brand to use shorter thru-axles, thus reducing weight. BMC has used a visually similar design with its Stealth Dropouts, found on models such as the Roadmachine<\/a> and Teammachine SLR01<\/a>.\u00a0<\/p>
The new Dogma F\u2019s fork legs are also slimmer, while retaining Pinarello\u2019s signature Onda wave design.\u00a0<\/p>
$\"Pinarello$
It’s a similar seatpost arrangement, with some weight savings. – Oscar Huckle \/ Our Media<\/figcaption><\/figure>
The Dogma F continues to use a twin T20 Torx bolt seatpost clamp at the back of the seat tube.\u00a0<\/p>
However, rather than having a separate wedge that sits behind the seatpost, the clamp is now integrated into the seat tube, resulting in a much cleaner aesthetic. Pinarello also claims this new design limits the amount of sweat and dust that can get inside.\u00a0<\/p>
While the proprietary seatpost features the same dimensions as the previous Dogma F and current Dogma X, the post\u2019s head has also seen some weight savings.\u00a0<\/p>
An updated front end\u00a0<\/h2>
$\"Pinarello$
The new front end meant a change in headset standard. – Oscar Huckle \/ Our Media<\/figcaption><\/figure>
As a result of the head tube\u2019s new shape, Pinarello had to rethink the headset and, by extension, the steerer tube. The new bike uses a 1.5in upper headset bearing and a 1 \u00bc lower.\u00a0<\/p>
The fork steerer tube now sees an elliptical shape and there\u2019s a new cover to channel the hydraulic hoses through the headset.\u00a0<\/p>
On the outgoing Dogma F, the hoses would pass either side of the steerer, but the new cover routes them in front, which Pinarello claims offers a \u201cmore direct\u201d path.\u00a0<\/p>
Because there\u2019s room for only two hoses, that means the new Dogma F is only compatible with electronic groupsets<\/a>.\u00a0<\/p>
A new integrated handlebar\u00a0<\/h2>
$\"MOST$
The new bar. – Oscar Huckle \/ Our Media<\/figcaption><\/figure>
The new headset standard and steerer tube shape mean the existing MOST Talon Ultra bar is incompatible, so Pinarello has developed a new MOST Talon Ultra Fast model.\u00a0<\/p>
The new bar is lighter, with its overall weight reduced by 40g in an unspecified size. It\u2019s also claimed to be more aerodynamic and adopts a wider 7-degree flare on the drops.\u00a0<\/p>
Pinarello has also canted the top of the bar inward, so \u201criders can find an aero position in a safer way\u201d.\u00a0<\/p>
$\"MOST$
There’s now a 7-degree flare. – Oscar Huckle \/ Our Media<\/figcaption><\/figure>
Like its predecessor, the new bar is offered in 16 sizes, from 80 to 140mm stem lengths (in 10mm increments) and 400 to 460mm widths (in 20mm increments).\u00a0<\/p>
It\u2019s worth noting that Pinarello measures its handlebars from the outside edges of the tops, rather than the typical centre-to-centre measurement.\u00a0 This means a nominal 420mm-wide handlebar, for example, will measure 400mm centre-to-centre.\u00a0<\/p>
Doing the maths<\/h2>
$\"Pinarello$
The weight savings all add up. – Oscar Huckle \/ Our Media<\/figcaption><\/figure>
Pinarello claims the new Dogma F\u2019s frame weight is 860g unpainted in a size 53cm with the steerer uncut.\u00a0<\/p>
The outgoing Dogma F had a claimed frame weight of 865g with the same parameters.\u00a0<\/p>
So where exactly has the 108g claimed weight saving come from?\u00a0<\/p>
Speaking to BikeRadar, Pinarello\u2019s R&D mechanical engineer Massimo Poloniato explained the most significant weight savings are found with the 40g-lighter handlebar.\u00a0<\/p>
He also says a few grams have been knocked off the fork legs to counteract the new heavier steerer tube. The slimmer head tube and headset also shave weight, as do the integrated seat clamp, thru-axle design and a revised seatpost head with titanium hardware.\u00a0<\/p>
Pinarello Dogma F geometry\u00a0<\/h2>
$\"Pinarello$
The most significant change is the increased fork rake. – Oscar Huckle \/ Our Media<\/figcaption><\/figure>
Pinarello has mostly preserved the geometry of the existing Dogma F, but the key change is the new 47mm fork rake (up from 43mm), to increase the bike\u2019s stability on descents.\u00a0<\/p>
Depending on the size, some of the head tube lengths also differ compared to the outgoing model, but the stack remains the same \u2013 this comes as a result of the increased tyre clearance.\u00a0<\/p>
The Dogma F continues to be offered in 11 sizes, with the MOST Talon Ultra Fast bar coming in 16 permutations.\u00a0Pinarello says it’s up to the dealer if they are willing to change the stock cockpit at the point of purchase. <\/p>
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\ufeffNominal size – seat tube centre to centre (mm)<\/th> 430<\/th> 465<\/th> 500<\/th> 515<\/th> 530<\/th> 540<\/th> 550<\/th> 560<\/th> 575<\/th> 595<\/th> 620<\/th><\/tr><\/thead>

Head tube angle <\/b> (degrees)<\/td> 69.5<\/td> 70.5<\/td> 71.4<\/td> 72<\/td> 72.5<\/td> 72.8<\/td> 72.8<\/td> 73.2<\/td> 73.7<\/td> 73.4<\/td> 73.4<\/td> <\/tr>
Head tube length <\/b> (mm)<\/td> 102<\/td> 109<\/td> 114<\/td> 119<\/td> 128<\/td> 136<\/td> 147<\/td> 154.5<\/td> 168<\/td> 204<\/td> 244<\/td> <\/tr>
Seat tube angle <\/b>(degrees)<\/td> 74.4<\/td> 74.4<\/td> 74<\/td> 73.7<\/td> 73.7<\/td> 73.4<\/td> 73.4<\/td> 73<\/td> 73<\/td> 72.4<\/td> 72<\/td> <\/tr>
Seat tube length <\/b>(mm)<\/td> 425<\/td> 450<\/td> 465<\/td> 485<\/td> 500<\/td> 510<\/td> 520<\/td> 525<\/td> 540<\/td> 560<\/td> 600<\/td> <\/tr>
Fork rake<\/b> (mm)<\/td> 47<\/td> 47<\/td> 47<\/td> 47<\/td> 47<\/td> 47<\/td> 47<\/td> 47<\/td> 47<\/td> 47<\/td> 47<\/td> <\/tr>
Top tube length<\/b> (mm)<\/td> 500<\/td> 515<\/td> 525<\/td> 535<\/td> 545<\/td> 550<\/td> 557<\/td> 565<\/td> 575<\/td> 587<\/td> 620<\/td> <\/tr>
Chainstay length <\/b>(mm)<\/td> 407<\/td> 407<\/td> 407<\/td> 407<\/td> 407<\/td> 408<\/td> 408<\/td> 409<\/td> 409<\/td> 409<\/td> 411<\/td> <\/tr>
Reach<\/b> (mm)<\/td> 351.5<\/td> 365.4<\/td> 372.2<\/td> 378.2<\/td> 385.6<\/td> 385.3<\/td> 389.2<\/td> 390.8<\/td> 396.7<\/td> 393.4<\/td> 410<\/td> <\/tr>
Stack <\/b> (mm)<\/td> 502<\/td> 517.3<\/td> 525.2<\/td> 532.1<\/td> 542.4<\/td> 551<\/td> 561.5<\/td> 570.1<\/td> 584.8<\/td> 613.2<\/td> 651.6<\/td> <\/tr> <\/tbody> <\/table>