{"id":21167,"date":"2022-08-31T17:26:00","date_gmt":"2022-08-31T15:26:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.radiotimes.com\/?p=1700084"},"modified":"2022-08-31T17:49:11","modified_gmt":"2022-08-31T15:49:11","slug":"kevin-mccloud-on-new-grand-designs-and-dislike-of-makeover-shows","status":"publish","type":"rss_feed","link":"https:\/\/c01.purpledshub.com\/radiotimes\/rss_feed\/kevin-mccloud-on-new-grand-designs-and-dislike-of-makeover-shows\/","title":{"rendered":"Kevin McCloud on new Grand Designs and dislike of makeover shows"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"rssexcerpt\"><\/p><p class=\"rssauthor\">By Michael Hodges\n                \t\t<\/p><p class=\"rssbyline\">Published: Wednesday, 31 August 2022 at 12:00 am<\/p><hr class=\"wp-block-separator\"\/><?xml version=\"1.0\" encoding=\"UTF-8\" standalone=\"yes\"?>\n<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><body><p><em>This interview was originally published in <strong>Radio Times magazine<\/strong>.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>\u201cGo and buy a gazebo from B&amp;Q, stick it outside your big glass wall, and you\u2019ve sorted the problem.\u201d I\u2019d thought Kevin McCloud would be downbeat. After all, as he dusts off the architects\u2019 plans and dons his hard hat for season 23 of <a href=\"\/\/www.radiotimes.com\/tv\/documentaries\/grand-designs-watch-stream-all4-amazon-netflix\/&quot;\" target=\"&quot;_blank&quot;\" rel=\"&quot;noopener&quot; noopener noreferrer\">Grand Designs<\/a>, the entire premise of the show appears to be at risk from cataclysmic economic meltdown and unfolding climate disaster.<\/p>\n<p>But here he is, telling me I should have gone to B&amp;Q (\u201cother gazebos are available,\u201d he adds, forestalling any winces in the Channel 4 advertising department) to cool down my house during a British summer when temperatures topped 40 degrees \u2013 especially if I\u2019ve been foolhardy enough to build a modernist glass box. Far from hastening Grand Designs\u2019 demise, he insists, the end of days we\u2019re presently enduring is actually playing to the show\u2019s strengths.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt\u2019s about the third time around that we\u2019ve had a big jolt to the economy,\u201d he says. \u201cAll our contributors are thinking hard, and they\u2019re working with people who are brilliant. If they\u2019re faced with a real difficulty, they will think of a cheap and clever solution to get out of it.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>But what about the recent and ongoing crazy weather \u2013 is it still wise to put glass boxes on mountainsides? \u201cDo we really? I can only think of three glass boxes in 23 years,\u201d he says, rejecting my characterisation of a show that erects radical domestic architecture in hard-to-reach locations.<\/p>\n<p>He does concede our modern affection for acres of glazing has meant a very sticky summer for millions of Britons. But it needn\u2019t. \u201cGo to Morocco or any hot climate in the world, and there are plenty of buildings with glazing. It\u2019s not the glass that\u2019s the issue. It\u2019s the shading that we need to be providing.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Hence the gazebo, and the 63-year-old presenter has other fixes where that came from. Consider, he suggests, why \u201clittle old Italian men\u201d (and women) in their hilltop villages put water on the pavement in front of their houses every day. \u201cThey\u2019re not doing it to keep clean. The water evaporates; to do so it draws energy from its immediate environment. So, sun heats water, water evaporates off, stone becomes cool. Air passing over stone into house becomes cool.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>What if you don\u2019t have a slab of Tuscan stone outside? \u201cMop your floors in the morning but don\u2019t mop the water off, just leave it there to evaporate. Or go and sit under a tree; because the water is evaporating off the leaves you get evaporative cooling. Trees in cities can mean that the streets are up to 12 degrees cooler because of the evaporative cool rate. This is basic physics, it\u2019s exactly the same physics of evaporative cooling in air-conditioning. You can put your hand in your pocket and pay \u00a33,000 or you can let nature help.\u201d<\/p>\n<div class=\"&quot;image-handler__container\" image-handler__container--aspect=\"\" style=\"&quot;padding-bottom:\" calc=\"\"> <picture><source media=\"&quot;(max-width:\" data-srcset=\"&quot;https:\/\/images.immediate.co.uk\/production\/volatile\/sites\/3\/2022\/08\/kevin-mccloud-grand-designs-2-2e593f8.jpg?webp=true&amp;quality=90&amp;resize=299%2C199,\" https:=\"\" type=\"&quot;image\/webp&quot;\"><source media=\"&quot;(max-width:\" data-srcset=\"&quot;https:\/\/images.immediate.co.uk\/production\/volatile\/sites\/3\/2022\/08\/kevin-mccloud-grand-designs-2-2e593f8.jpg?quality=90&amp;resize=299%2C199,\" https:=\"\" type=\"&quot;image\/jpeg&quot;\"><source media=\"&quot;(max-width:\" data-srcset=\"&quot;https:\/\/images.immediate.co.uk\/production\/volatile\/sites\/3\/2022\/08\/kevin-mccloud-grand-designs-2-2e593f8.jpg?webp=true&amp;quality=90&amp;resize=354%2C236,\" https:=\"\" type=\"&quot;image\/webp&quot;\"><source media=\"&quot;(max-width:\" data-srcset=\"&quot;https:\/\/images.immediate.co.uk\/production\/volatile\/sites\/3\/2022\/08\/kevin-mccloud-grand-designs-2-2e593f8.jpg?quality=90&amp;resize=354%2C236,\" https:=\"\" type=\"&quot;image\/jpeg&quot;\"><source media=\"&quot;(max-width:\" data-srcset=\"&quot;https:\/\/images.immediate.co.uk\/production\/volatile\/sites\/3\/2022\/08\/kevin-mccloud-grand-designs-2-2e593f8.jpg?webp=true&amp;quality=90&amp;resize=404%2C269,\" https:=\"\" type=\"&quot;image\/webp&quot;\"><source media=\"&quot;(max-width:\" data-srcset=\"&quot;https:\/\/images.immediate.co.uk\/production\/volatile\/sites\/3\/2022\/08\/kevin-mccloud-grand-designs-2-2e593f8.jpg?quality=90&amp;resize=404%2C269,\" https:=\"\" type=\"&quot;image\/jpeg&quot;\"><source media=\"&quot;(max-width:\" data-srcset=\"&quot;https:\/\/images.immediate.co.uk\/production\/volatile\/sites\/3\/2022\/08\/kevin-mccloud-grand-designs-2-2e593f8.jpg?webp=true&amp;quality=90&amp;resize=554%2C369,\" https:=\"\" type=\"&quot;image\/webp&quot;\"><source media=\"&quot;(max-width:\" data-srcset=\"&quot;https:\/\/images.immediate.co.uk\/production\/volatile\/sites\/3\/2022\/08\/kevin-mccloud-grand-designs-2-2e593f8.jpg?quality=90&amp;resize=554%2C369,\" https:=\"\" type=\"&quot;image\/jpeg&quot;\"><source media=\"&quot;(min-width:\" data-srcset=\"&quot;https:\/\/images.immediate.co.uk\/production\/volatile\/sites\/3\/2022\/08\/kevin-mccloud-grand-designs-2-2e593f8.jpg?webp=true&amp;quality=90&amp;resize=620%2C413,\" https:=\"\" type=\"&quot;image\/webp&quot;\"><source media=\"&quot;(min-width:\" data-srcset=\"&quot;https:\/\/images.immediate.co.uk\/production\/volatile\/sites\/3\/2022\/08\/kevin-mccloud-grand-designs-2-2e593f8.jpg?quality=90&amp;resize=620%2C413,\" https:=\"\" type=\"&quot;image\/jpeg&quot;\"><source media=\"&quot;(min-width:\" data-srcset=\"&quot;https:\/\/images.immediate.co.uk\/production\/volatile\/sites\/3\/2022\/08\/kevin-mccloud-grand-designs-2-2e593f8.jpg?webp=true&amp;quality=90&amp;resize=407%2C271,\" https:=\"\" type=\"&quot;image\/webp&quot;\"><source media=\"&quot;(min-width:\" data-srcset=\"&quot;https:\/\/images.immediate.co.uk\/production\/volatile\/sites\/3\/2022\/08\/kevin-mccloud-grand-designs-2-2e593f8.jpg?quality=90&amp;resize=407%2C271,\" https:=\"\" type=\"&quot;image\/jpeg&quot;\"><source media=\"&quot;(min-width:\" data-srcset=\"&quot;https:\/\/images.immediate.co.uk\/production\/volatile\/sites\/3\/2022\/08\/kevin-mccloud-grand-designs-2-2e593f8.jpg?webp=true&amp;quality=90&amp;resize=555%2C370,\" https:=\"\" type=\"&quot;image\/webp&quot;\"><source media=\"&quot;(min-width:\" data-srcset=\"&quot;https:\/\/images.immediate.co.uk\/production\/volatile\/sites\/3\/2022\/08\/kevin-mccloud-grand-designs-2-2e593f8.jpg?quality=90&amp;resize=555%2C370,\" https:=\"\" type=\"&quot;image\/jpeg&quot;\"><img class=\"&quot;wp-image-1700454\" align=\"\" size-landscape_thumbnail=\"\" image-handler__image=\"\" image-handler__image--aspect=\"\" no-wrap=\"\" js-lazyload=\"\" data-src=\"&quot;https:\/\/images.immediate.co.uk\/production\/volatile\/sites\/3\/2022\/08\/kevin-mccloud-grand-designs-2-2e593f8.jpg?quality=90&amp;resize=620%2C413&quot;\" width=\"&quot;620&quot;\" height=\"&quot;413&quot;\" alt=\"&quot;&quot;\" title=\"&quot;&quot;\"\/><\/source><\/source><\/source><\/source><\/source><\/source><\/source><\/source><\/source><\/source><\/source><\/source><\/source><\/source><\/picture><\/div><div class=\"&quot;caption-hold&quot;\"><figcaption class=\"&quot;wp-caption-text&quot;\"><span class=\"&quot;caption-copy&quot;\"><i class=\"&quot;icon-arrow\" icon-camera-circle=\"\"\/> Kevin McCloud in Grand Designs<\/span><\/figcaption><span class=\"&quot;im-image-caption&quot;\"> <i>Channel 4<\/i><\/span><\/div>\n<p>Spending money, much more than \u00a33,000, is central to Grand Designs\u2019 appeal. Budgets, apparently expressions of desire rather than achievable ends, are invariably bust within minutes of the first footings being dug. Some guests have put hundreds of thousands of pounds into projects, not always entirely successfully \u2013 most notably Edward Short, star of the 2019 episode that was dubbed \u201cthe saddest ever\u201d by viewers.<\/p>\n<p>Short\u2019s ultra-ambitious, lighthouse-inspired, neo deco clifftop house, overlooking the north Devon coast, was beset by difficulties and eventually put him \u00a37 million in debt. Much of the adversity Short encountered was beyond his control \u2013 who priced Brexit and COVID-19 into their business plan 10 years ago? \u2013 but he aimed for the heavens and, in so doing, angered the property development gods.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe project was vainglorious,\u201d says McCloud of a build that long ago left the realm of challenging construction site and became a mythic quest. \u201cThe drive to build, to change the world and make in our own image, to improve our environment, all of these things can go too far. And that ambition can destroy the beauty that we strive to find in life.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>In Short\u2019s case, it destroyed his marriage to wife Hazel. With raw honesty, the 57-year-old told McCloud: \u201cMy vanity and ambition probably collapsed the marriage.\u201d Does McCloud feel any residual guilt? \u201cI see my role as like that of a therapist. I\u2019m not complicit with these people. I\u2019m not egging them on. I\u2019m not involved in their design.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Consequently, he keeps an emotional barrier between himself and the people on the show. As he puts it, \u201cIf I\u2019m too pally with the guys who are building then, in a way, I think I\u2019ve betrayed my relationship with the viewer.\u201d But he admits Short has broken through that barrier.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI\u2019ve known him now for 10 years. And I\u2019ve always been utterly in admiration of somebody who is prepared to admit, with such humility, their failings, in front of three and a half million strangers. It\u2019s almost a public self-castigation of human foibles and failings. I\u2019ve become very emotionally bound up with it. You can\u2019t not, can you? I\u2019ve known these guys for that long. Their girls were young teenagers when I first met them. They\u2019re now young women.\u201d<\/p> <p>Edward Short and his daughters Nicole and Lauren appear in the new season, but Hazel turned down the chance to be on screen. \u201cWe asked Hazel if she\u2019d like to take part,\u201d McCloud says. \u201cShe\u2019d rather leave it to Edward and the girls to speak for her. And I understand why, because they\u2019re still a family, and they\u2019re still friends. It\u2019s about trust and being totally open.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>This insistence on integrity means McCloud is no fan of makeover shows and their trickery, even though that\u2019s how his own television career began, on BBC Two\u2019s Home Front in the late 1990s.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cMakeover is my worst kind of television,\u201d he says. \u201cWhatever\u2019s happening in front of the camera is being orchestrated by the team who are making the programme, by the presenter, who might or might not be a designer. So the viewer is being sold an idea as hard as the victims on the television are.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWhen we started Grand Designs, 23 years ago, I thought, \u2018This is more like it.\u2019 It\u2019s an opportunity to champion something because we like it, but also to remain on the side of the viewer. It\u2019s almost like saying to the viewer, \u2018It\u2019s OK, I\u2019ll hold your hand. You\u2019re on the sofa at home. You\u2019re not mad, they are.\u2019\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Grand Designs season 22 begins tonight Wednesday 31st August at 9pm on Channel 4. 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