{"id":30230,"date":"2023-02-16T18:31:49","date_gmt":"2023-02-16T17:31:49","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.radiotimes.com\/?p=1787218"},"modified":"2023-02-17T07:52:46","modified_gmt":"2023-02-17T06:52:46","slug":"why-the-you-season-4-part-1-finales-big-twist-fell-completely-flat","status":"publish","type":"rss_feed","link":"https:\/\/c01.purpledshub.com\/radiotimes\/rss_feed\/why-the-you-season-4-part-1-finales-big-twist-fell-completely-flat\/","title":{"rendered":"Why the You season 4 part 1 finale\u2019s big twist fell completely flat"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"rssexcerpt\"> The whodunnit reveal was just another half-baked attempt to highlight unreliable narrator Joe Goldberg\u2019s skewed perspective. When is he actually going to meet his downfall? <\/p><p class=\"rssauthor\">By Molly Moss\n                \t\t<\/p><p class=\"rssbyline\">Published: Thursday, 16 February 2023 at 12:00 am<\/p><hr class=\"wp-block-separator\"\/><?xml version=\"1.0\" encoding=\"UTF-8\" standalone=\"yes\"?>\n<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><body> <p><strong>Warning: This article contains spoilers for You season 4 part 1.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"&quot;font-weight:\">After its first three seasons, Netflix thriller You needed to shake things up. Until the latest chapter arrived on our screens, the show has followed the same pattern: its puppyish, book-loving and not-so-romantic lead Joe Goldberg (Penn Badgley) would find the love of his life, stalk and woo her, discover the <\/span><i><span style=\"&quot;font-weight:\">real<\/span><\/i><span style=\"&quot;font-weight:\"> love of his life, and a killing spree would ensue.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"&quot;font-weight:\"><a href=\"\/\/www.radiotimes.com\/tv\/drama\/you-season-4-release-date-netflix\/&quot;\" target=\"&quot;_blank&quot;\" rel=\"&quot;noopener&quot; noopener noreferrer\">Season 4<\/a> tries to turn the tables <\/span><span style=\"&quot;font-weight:\">\u2013<\/span><span style=\"&quot;font-weight:\"> the new \u2018You\u2019 isn\u2019t a romantic partner but a serial killer who takes out several members of the high society crowd Joe now finds himself associating with in London. The Cluedo-esque whodunnit is for the best: killing women is most definitely bad and Joe is entirely over it. This way, he gets to play the good guy and track down the murderer.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"&quot;font-weight:\">Eventually (spoiler alert), <a href=\"\/\/www.radiotimes.com\/tv\/drama\/you-season-4-eat-the-rich-killer-explained\/&quot;\" target=\"&quot;_blank&quot;\" rel=\"&quot;noopener&quot; noopener noreferrer\">the mysterious killer<\/a> is revealed to be none other than <a href=\"\/\/www.radiotimes.com\/tv\/drama\/you-season-4-ed-speleers-rhys\/&quot;\" target=\"&quot;_blank&quot;\" rel=\"&quot;noopener&quot; noopener noreferrer\">Rhys Montrose (Ed Speleers)<\/a><\/span><span style=\"&quot;font-weight:\">. The rags-to-riches author who Joe befriended in episode 1 has a memoir about overcoming a rough childhood, titled A Good Man in a Cruel World, and is taking London by storm as he embarks on a campaign to become the city\u2019s mayor.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"&quot;font-weight:\">But the twist falls completely flat.<\/span><\/p> <div class=\"&quot;brightcove\" embed=\"\"> <div class=\"&quot;embed__intrinsic&quot;\"> <div class=\"&quot;brightcove__player\" vjs-playlist-player-container=\"\"> <video data-video-id=\"&quot;6320082732112&quot;\" data-account=\"&quot;69912529001&quot;\" data-player=\"&quot;ByeOf0VZEl&quot;\" data-embed=\"&quot;default&quot;\" data-application-id=\"\" controls=\"\" class=\"&quot;video-js&quot;\"\/><\/div> <\/div>\n<\/div>\n<script src=\"&quot;\/\/players.brightcove.net\/69912529001\/ByeOf0VZEl_default\/index.min.js&quot;\"\/><p><span style=\"&quot;font-weight:\">Firstly, there were clues it was Rhys right from the start. Unlike the privileged socialites surrounding Joe, he came from humble origins and his contempt for the elite gives him a stronger motive than the rest of the cast. \u201c<\/span><span style=\"&quot;font-weight:\">They\u2019re dancing while the world burns, barely notice it\u2019s even burning,\u201d he says to Joe at a party, the pair bonding over their hellish childhoods and disgust towards the awful rich people around them.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"&quot;font-weight:\">Then there\u2019s the fact that Rhys is nowhere to be seen at the countryside retreat in the final episodes. The guests at Lady Phoebe\u2019s stately home <\/span><span style=\"&quot;font-weight:\">\u2013<\/span><span style=\"&quot;font-weight:\"> who we are supposed to suspect the most <\/span><span style=\"&quot;font-weight:\">\u2013<\/span><span style=\"&quot;font-weight:\"> are busy getting inebriated and partying, behaviour which seems at odds with that of the killer, whose actions throughout the series have been calculated and systematic.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"&quot;font-weight:\">Of course, part of the twist is that the killer isn\u2019t the cold and callous monster Joe had been expecting, but a fellow not-so-\u201cnice guy\u201d rationalising his murders as reasonable and necessary <\/span><span style=\"&quot;font-weight:\">\u2013<\/span><span style=\"&quot;font-weight:\"> and one who thinks Joe would want to join his mission to kill the privileged and undeserving. <\/span><span style=\"&quot;font-weight:\">This triggers Joe, who has only ever seen himself as a romantic, selfless hero who kills to protect or secure the loves of his life.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"&quot;font-weight:\">\u201cYou\u2019re in serious self-denial about yourself,\u201d Rhys tells Joe when he declines his deadly offer. And he\u2019s right.<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"&quot;image-handler__container\" image-handler__container--aspect=\"\" style=\"&quot;padding-bottom:\" calc=\"\"> <picture><source media=\"&quot;(max-width:\" data-srcset=\"&quot;https:\/\/images.immediate.co.uk\/production\/volatile\/sites\/3\/2023\/02\/You-season-4-rhys-ed-speleers-65f0969.jpeg?webp=true&amp;quality=90&amp;resize=299%2C199,\" https:=\"\" type=\"&quot;image\/webp&quot;\"><source media=\"&quot;(max-width:\" data-srcset=\"&quot;https:\/\/images.immediate.co.uk\/production\/volatile\/sites\/3\/2023\/02\/You-season-4-rhys-ed-speleers-65f0969.jpeg?quality=90&amp;resize=299%2C199,\" https:=\"\" type=\"&quot;image\/jpeg&quot;\"><source media=\"&quot;(max-width:\" data-srcset=\"&quot;https:\/\/images.immediate.co.uk\/production\/volatile\/sites\/3\/2023\/02\/You-season-4-rhys-ed-speleers-65f0969.jpeg?webp=true&amp;quality=90&amp;resize=354%2C236,\" https:=\"\" type=\"&quot;image\/webp&quot;\"><source media=\"&quot;(max-width:\" data-srcset=\"&quot;https:\/\/images.immediate.co.uk\/production\/volatile\/sites\/3\/2023\/02\/You-season-4-rhys-ed-speleers-65f0969.jpeg?quality=90&amp;resize=354%2C236,\" https:=\"\" type=\"&quot;image\/jpeg&quot;\"><source media=\"&quot;(max-width:\" data-srcset=\"&quot;https:\/\/images.immediate.co.uk\/production\/volatile\/sites\/3\/2023\/02\/You-season-4-rhys-ed-speleers-65f0969.jpeg?webp=true&amp;quality=90&amp;resize=404%2C269,\" https:=\"\" type=\"&quot;image\/webp&quot;\"><source media=\"&quot;(max-width:\" data-srcset=\"&quot;https:\/\/images.immediate.co.uk\/production\/volatile\/sites\/3\/2023\/02\/You-season-4-rhys-ed-speleers-65f0969.jpeg?quality=90&amp;resize=404%2C269,\" https:=\"\" type=\"&quot;image\/jpeg&quot;\"><source media=\"&quot;(max-width:\" data-srcset=\"&quot;https:\/\/images.immediate.co.uk\/production\/volatile\/sites\/3\/2023\/02\/You-season-4-rhys-ed-speleers-65f0969.jpeg?webp=true&amp;quality=90&amp;resize=554%2C369,\" https:=\"\" type=\"&quot;image\/webp&quot;\"><source media=\"&quot;(max-width:\" data-srcset=\"&quot;https:\/\/images.immediate.co.uk\/production\/volatile\/sites\/3\/2023\/02\/You-season-4-rhys-ed-speleers-65f0969.jpeg?quality=90&amp;resize=554%2C369,\" https:=\"\" type=\"&quot;image\/jpeg&quot;\"><source media=\"&quot;(min-width:\" data-srcset=\"&quot;https:\/\/images.immediate.co.uk\/production\/volatile\/sites\/3\/2023\/02\/You-season-4-rhys-ed-speleers-65f0969.jpeg?webp=true&amp;quality=90&amp;resize=620%2C413,\" https:=\"\" type=\"&quot;image\/webp&quot;\"><source media=\"&quot;(min-width:\" data-srcset=\"&quot;https:\/\/images.immediate.co.uk\/production\/volatile\/sites\/3\/2023\/02\/You-season-4-rhys-ed-speleers-65f0969.jpeg?quality=90&amp;resize=620%2C413,\" https:=\"\" type=\"&quot;image\/jpeg&quot;\"><source media=\"&quot;(min-width:\" data-srcset=\"&quot;https:\/\/images.immediate.co.uk\/production\/volatile\/sites\/3\/2023\/02\/You-season-4-rhys-ed-speleers-65f0969.jpeg?webp=true&amp;quality=90&amp;resize=407%2C271,\" https:=\"\" type=\"&quot;image\/webp&quot;\"><source media=\"&quot;(min-width:\" data-srcset=\"&quot;https:\/\/images.immediate.co.uk\/production\/volatile\/sites\/3\/2023\/02\/You-season-4-rhys-ed-speleers-65f0969.jpeg?quality=90&amp;resize=407%2C271,\" https:=\"\" type=\"&quot;image\/jpeg&quot;\"><source media=\"&quot;(min-width:\" data-srcset=\"&quot;https:\/\/images.immediate.co.uk\/production\/volatile\/sites\/3\/2023\/02\/You-season-4-rhys-ed-speleers-65f0969.jpeg?webp=true&amp;quality=90&amp;resize=555%2C370,\" https:=\"\" type=\"&quot;image\/webp&quot;\"><source media=\"&quot;(min-width:\" data-srcset=\"&quot;https:\/\/images.immediate.co.uk\/production\/volatile\/sites\/3\/2023\/02\/You-season-4-rhys-ed-speleers-65f0969.jpeg?quality=90&amp;resize=555%2C370,\" https:=\"\" type=\"&quot;image\/jpeg&quot;\"><img class=\"&quot;wp-image-1782910\" align=\"\" size-landscape_thumbnail=\"\" image-handler__image=\"\" image-handler__image--aspect=\"\" no-wrap=\"\" js-lazyload=\"\" data-src=\"&quot;https:\/\/images.immediate.co.uk\/production\/volatile\/sites\/3\/2023\/02\/You-season-4-rhys-ed-speleers-65f0969.jpeg?quality=90&amp;resize=620%2C413&quot;\" width=\"&quot;620&quot;\" height=\"&quot;413&quot;\" alt=\"&quot;&quot;\" title=\"&quot;&quot;\"\/><\/source><\/source><\/source><\/source><\/source><\/source><\/source><\/source><\/source><\/source><\/source><\/source><\/source><\/source><\/picture><\/div><div class=\"&quot;caption-hold&quot;\"><figcaption class=\"&quot;wp-caption-text&quot;\"><span class=\"&quot;caption-copy&quot;\"><i class=\"&quot;icon-arrow\" icon-camera-circle=\"\"\/> Ed Speleers as Rhys in You season 4 part 1.<\/span><\/figcaption><span class=\"&quot;im-image-caption&quot;\"> <i>Netflix<\/i><\/span><\/div>\n<p><span style=\"&quot;font-weight:\">A twist forcing Joe to reconsider the justifications he uses for stalking and killing sounds like a good idea on paper, so why did it feel so anticlimactic? The\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"&quot;font-weight:\">problem is we\u2019ve been here before with <a href=\"\/\/www.radiotimes.com\/tv\/drama\/you-season-4-part-2-trailer-love-quinn-newsupdate\/&quot;\" target=\"&quot;_blank&quot;\" rel=\"&quot;noopener&quot; noopener noreferrer\">the \u2018You\u2019 of season 2, Love Quinn<\/a>, who Joe obsesses over, stalks and eventually wins over, only to discover in the finale that she\u2019s equally murderous. Even better, we learn that Love has been manipulating Joe all along, playing him and driving him to murder with the goal of winning his heart.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"&quot;font-weight:\">Both Rhys and Love match a lot of the parts of Joe he can\u2019t bear to confront <\/span><span style=\"&quot;font-weight:\">\u2013<\/span><span style=\"&quot;font-weight:\"> his taste for violence and murder, the horrors of his childhood and the moral person act he uses to excuse his deadly ways. And <\/span><span style=\"&quot;font-weight:\">it\u2019s getting boring now.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"&quot;font-weight:\">While both twists have served to highlight the unreliable narrator\u2019s skewed perspective, the killer has yet to get his comeuppance. Joe always <\/span><span style=\"&quot;font-weight:\">escapes unscathed and gets to continue narrating the show. And he always has the last laugh.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"&quot;font-weight:\">Perhaps e<\/span><span style=\"&quot;font-weight:\">ven more frustratingly, the season 4 part 1 twist appears to be <a href=\"\/\/www.radiotimes.com\/tv\/drama\/you-season-4-part-2-netflix-release-date\/&quot;\" target=\"&quot;_blank&quot;\" rel=\"&quot;noopener&quot; noopener noreferrer\">setting Joe up to play the hero in part 2<\/a>\u00a0as he attempts to track down the high-profile killer hiding in the spotlight.\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"&quot;font-weight:\">When are we going to <em>actually<\/em> see Joe meet his downfall?\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"&quot;font-weight:\">Arguably, season 4 had been preparing us for a predictable twist right from the start by making clear whodunnits are supposed to be formulaic. <\/span><span style=\"&quot;font-weight:\">As Joe\u2019s student and murder mystery enthusiast Nadia tells him of the genre: \u201cThere are no coincidences. All motives usually boil down to money, sex and revenge.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"&quot;font-weight:\">Is season 4 part 1 paving the way for a bigger, better twist? Is it readying us for the twist to end all twists in part 2? We\u2019ll have to wait and see, <\/span><span style=\"&quot;font-weight:\">though it does feel somewhat like the show missed its opportunity to have Love kill Joe and become the new narrator of the series at the end of season 3\u2026<\/span><\/p> <p><strong>You season 4 part 1 is\u00a0available to watch now on\u00a0<a href=\"\/\/www.netflix.com\/title\/80211991&quot;\" target=\"&quot;_blank&quot;\" rel=\"&quot;noopener&quot; noopener noreferrer\">Netflix,<\/a> while part 2 will land on Thursday 9th March. Seasons 1-3 are streaming now. <a title=\"&quot;https:\/\/www.netflix.com\/gb\/&quot;\" href=\"\/\/www.netflix.com\/gb\/&quot;\" target=\"&quot;_blank&quot;\" rel=\"&quot;noopener&quot; noopener noreferrer\">Sign up for Netflix from \u00a36.99 a month<\/a>. 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