{"id":41105,"date":"2023-12-05T12:00:11","date_gmt":"2023-12-05T11:00:11","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.radiotimes.com\/?p=1938296"},"modified":"2023-12-05T14:32:39","modified_gmt":"2023-12-05T13:32:39","slug":"stephen-schwartz-on-prince-of-egypt-and-total-joy-of-wicked-movie","status":"publish","type":"rss_feed","link":"https:\/\/c01.purpledshub.com\/radiotimes\/rss_feed\/stephen-schwartz-on-prince-of-egypt-and-total-joy-of-wicked-movie\/","title":{"rendered":"Stephen Schwartz on Prince of Egypt and \u201ctotal joy\u201d of Wicked movie"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"rssexcerpt\"> The legendary musical theatre composer speaks exclusively to RadioTimes.com to mark the digital release of The Prince of Egypt: The Musical. <\/p><p class=\"rssauthor\">By Patrick Cremona\n                \t\t<\/p><p class=\"rssbyline\">Published: Tuesday, 05 December 2023 at 11:00 AM<\/p><hr class=\"wp-block-separator\"\/><?xml version=\"1.0\" encoding=\"UTF-8\" standalone=\"yes\"?>\n<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><body> <p>The idea of creating filmed versions of hit stage plays is not necessarily a new phenomenon, but it\u2019s a practice that has taken off in a whole new way in the last decade or so.<\/p>\n<p>The National Theatre started bringing live versions of its biggest productions to cinema audiences around the UK in 2009, while during the pandemic, a recorded performance of Hamilton became a major streaming hit on <a href=\"https:\/\/www.radiotimes.com\/technology\/disney-plus-uk\/\">Disney Plus<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>This is a development that Stephen Schwartz \u2013 whose musical The Prince of Egypt is the latest to spawn a specially filmed version \u2013 is very much in favour of.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThere seems to be more of an appetite to try and get a wider audience that maybe can\u2019t get to the theatre or can\u2019t afford to get to the theatre,\u201d he tells <a href=\"https:\/\/www.radiotimes.com\/\">RadioTimes.com<\/a> during an exclusive interview. \u201cI think it\u2019s obviously a great development, and I\u2019m happy to be part of it with The Prince of Egypt.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>While Schwarz notes that certain aspects of the live experience are impossible to replicate in this format \u2013 specifically the unpredictability and unique energy of watching something unfold in the same room \u2013 he reckons that there are also advantages to pre-recorded versions that make up for those shortcomings, not least the ability to make use of close-ups and to appreciate the piece from angles that would be impossible from a theatre seat.<\/p>\n<p>And he also likes the idea of immortalising live performances that might otherwise be lost to time.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThere are so many performances from the past that\u2026 even myself, being of a certain age, there are still things that I never saw, performances I never saw that are legendary that it would have been lovely to be able to have a recording like this to be able to see,\u201d he explains.<\/p> <p>The idea of a filmed version of The Prince of Egypt seems especially fitting given that the musical is itself adapted from the 1998 animated film of the same name.<\/p>\n<p>Schwartz had composed several songs for that original film \u2013 including the now-iconic When You Believe \u2013 and returned to pen some new numbers for the stage version, which was originally performed in 2017 before coming to the West End in 2020.<\/p>\n<p>He said the process of developing the project for the stage was one he greatly enjoyed, and he particularly relished the opportunity to give \u201cmuch more depth\u201d to some of the characters.<\/p>\n<p>Meanwhile, it was also enjoyable to revisit his musical research from the original project, even if nothing could quite top the experience that initially gave him the inspiration for When You Believe all those years ago.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe were on a tour that DreamWorks had arranged, and we were actually in the Sinai desert,\u201d he recalls. \u201cAnd one of the directors, Steve Hickner, was talking about wanting a kind of anthemic sound for when the Hebrew tribes finally succeeded in getting their freedom.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cSo the next morning, we actually got to climb Mount Sinai, and got up before dawn so we could be up at the summit to watch the sunrise come up. And I kind of had this tune in my head\u2026 I didn\u2019t write the whole song then, but that was basically the genesis of the song!\u201d<\/p>\n<div class=\"image-handler__container image-handler__container--full\" style=\"padding-bottom: calc(100% * (1806 \/ 2712));\"> <picture> <source media=\"(max-width: 320px)\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/images.immediate.co.uk\/production\/volatile\/sites\/3\/2023\/12\/A-still-from-the-animated-feature-The-Prince-of-Egypt-8ebeed3.jpg?webp=true&amp;quality=90&amp;resize=300%2C200, https:\/\/images.immediate.co.uk\/production\/volatile\/sites\/3\/2023\/12\/A-still-from-the-animated-feature-The-Prince-of-Egypt-8ebeed3.jpg?webp=true&amp;quality=45&amp;resize=600%2C400 2x, https:\/\/images.immediate.co.uk\/production\/volatile\/sites\/3\/2023\/12\/A-still-from-the-animated-feature-The-Prince-of-Egypt-8ebeed3.jpg?webp=true&amp;quality=45&amp;resize=900%2C599 3x, 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alt=\"A still from the animated feature The Prince of Egypt showing characters walking up steps\" title=\"A still from the animated feature The Prince of Egypt\"\/>\n<\/source><\/source><\/source><\/source><\/source><\/source><\/source><\/source><\/source><\/source><\/source><\/source><\/source><\/source><\/picture>\n<\/div><div class=\"caption-hold\"><figcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\"><span class=\"caption-copy\"><i class=\"icon-arrow icon-camera-circle\"\/> The Prince of Egypt.<\/span><\/figcaption><span class=\"im-image-caption\"> <i>SEAC<\/i><\/span><\/div>\n<p>Those kinds of circumstances might not have been recreated this time around, but he did find it useful to dip back into his research \u2013 which included \u201crecordings that purported to be of Egyptian court music\u201d and \u201ckind of Middle Eastern folk music\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe used a lot of authentic instrumentation in the orchestration for the show,\u201d he adds. \u201cAnd it was a matter of kind of going back to what was the musical palette that I was using originally, and trying to draw upon that.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Another thing that\u2019s notable about the stage musical is that its director was none other than Schwartz\u2019s son, Scott Schwartz. The composer describes Scott as \u201cone of my favourite directors\u201d \u2013 but stresses that that doesn\u2019t mean \u201cwe don\u2019t have our differences\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI think that\u2019s a positive thing,\u201d he adds. \u201cHe definitely brings his point of view, he has an extremely strong visual sense, as I think anyone seeing the video is going to realise. I thought the production was just simply beautiful to look at and the flow of the way he stages things is something that I like very much.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI really like the concept that Scott and his choreographer, Sean Cheesman, came up with, that they wouldn\u2019t do very high-tech things all the time \u2013 that a lot was made from dancers\u2019 bodies,\u201d he continues.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cSo that dancers are making a chariot race or dancers are becoming the Nile or kind of a haunted desert as Moses is sent out into the desert. So much is done with the actors and the use of their choreographic skills \u2013 and I think that was one of my favourite things about this production.\u201d<\/p>\n<iframe title=\"The Prince of Egypt Musical | Trailer | Live from London's West End\" width=\"200\" height=\"113\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/0JIpIourAas?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" allowfullscreen=\"\"\/>\n<p>The Prince of Egypt is not the only production Schwartz has written that has its roots in a biblical story. One of his earliest and most famous works, Godspell, is based on the Gospel of Matthew, while his lesser-known 1991 musical Children of Eden is adapted from the Book of Genesis, telling the stories of Adam and Eve, Cain and Abel and Noah and the Flood.<\/p>\n<p>So what is it about biblical subject matter that particularly appeals to him as being ripe for musical adaptation? \u201cWell, they\u2019re big stories,\u201d he says. \u201cBig events occur and people are put into very extreme situations \u2013 and, therefore, there\u2019s a lot to sing about.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIn this case, the idea from the beginning that Steven Spielberg had when we were first making the animated feature was to treat this as a brother story. And the conflict that arises between two brothers who love one another, and then find themselves through their destinies on opposite sides of a major issue and a major conflict.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cSo it\u2019s both a story that deals with large issues about freedom and personal responsibility, but also a very personal story about the relationship between these two men and how these events affect them.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cAnd that\u2019s what the Bible stories lend you \u2013 you\u2019re able to deal with subject matter that is still very pertinent to us in contemporary times. I mean, given what\u2019s happening right now in the Middle East, the conflicts in Prince of Egypt seem completely modern today.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cAnd yet there\u2019s a remove, because the characters are characters from a long, long time ago. So there\u2019s a lot of fertile ground \u2013 if you\u2019ll pardon the pun \u2013 in the Bible stories that I think lend themselves to both musicalisation and to drama.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Of all the works Schwartz has created throughout his storied career, it\u2019s perhaps Wicked which is the most beloved of all. The Wizard of Oz prequel has played to sold-out audiences in the West End for almost two decades since it opened in 2006, and is now the subject of a big-budget film adaptation that will arrive in two parts in 2024 and 2025, with Ariana Grande and Cynthia Erivo in the starring roles.<\/p>\n<p>Schwartz has naturally been heavily involved in the film\u2019s production \u2013 an experience he describes as \u201ca complete joy\u201d \u2013 and says that things are very much on track for next November\u2019s release date, despite a few delays during the now-resolved WGA and SAG-AFTRA strikes, with a few additional days of shooting planned for early 2024.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cAll of the production has been done in the UK, and it\u2019s been a wonderful place to work,\u201d he says. \u201cAnd there was so much that had been filmed that when the strike happened, the director Jon Chu was able to do a rough cut of the film. And it didn\u2019t really stop, fortunately, the progress on the film.\u201d<\/p>\n<div class=\"image-handler__container image-handler__container--aspect\" style=\"padding-bottom: calc(100% \/ 1.501210653753);\"> <picture> <source media=\"(max-width: 320px)\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/images.immediate.co.uk\/production\/volatile\/sites\/3\/2022\/04\/Laura-Pick-and-Sophie-Evans-in-Wicked-db2945e.png?webp=true&amp;quality=90&amp;resize=299%2C199, https:\/\/images.immediate.co.uk\/production\/volatile\/sites\/3\/2022\/04\/Laura-Pick-and-Sophie-Evans-in-Wicked-db2945e.png?webp=true&amp;quality=45&amp;resize=599%2C399 2x\" type=\"image\/webp\"> <source media=\"(max-width: 320px)\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/images.immediate.co.uk\/production\/volatile\/sites\/3\/2022\/04\/Laura-Pick-and-Sophie-Evans-in-Wicked-db2945e.png?quality=90&amp;resize=299%2C199, 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data-srcset=\"https:\/\/images.immediate.co.uk\/production\/volatile\/sites\/3\/2022\/04\/Laura-Pick-and-Sophie-Evans-in-Wicked-db2945e.png?quality=90&amp;resize=555%2C370\" type=\"image\/png\"> <img class=\"wp-image-1635442 align size-landscape_thumbnail image-handler__image image-handler__image--aspect no-wrap js-lazyload\" srcset=\"data:image\/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAAAAACH5BAEKAAEALAAAAAABAAEAAAICTAEAOw==\" data-src=\"https:\/\/images.immediate.co.uk\/production\/volatile\/sites\/3\/2022\/04\/Laura-Pick-and-Sophie-Evans-in-Wicked-db2945e.png?quality=90&amp;resize=620%2C413\" width=\"620\" height=\"413\" alt=\"Laura Pick and Sophie Evans in Wicked at The Apollo Victoria Theatre standing close to each other\" title=\"Laura Pick and Sophie Evans in Wicked at The Apollo Victoria Theatre\"\/>\n<\/source><\/source><\/source><\/source><\/source><\/source><\/source><\/source><\/source><\/source><\/source><\/source><\/source><\/source><\/picture>\n<\/div><div class=\"caption-hold\"><figcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\"><span class=\"caption-copy\"><i class=\"icon-arrow icon-camera-circle\"\/> Laura Pick and Sophie Evans in Wicked at The Apollo Victoria Theatre.<\/span><\/figcaption><span class=\"im-image-caption\"> <i>Broadway Shows<\/i><\/span><\/div>\n<p>Schwartz also takes time to praise the \u201cgreat\u201d music team and \u201cphenomenal\u201d cast for the film, whom he calls \u201cwonderful human beings to work with\u201d. And he explains that one of the most exciting aspects of the experience had been getting the opportunity to pen brand new songs for both Erivo and Grande, partly a result of the decision to split the musical into two separate films released a year apart.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe weren\u2019t really able to get the whole story into one movie without it being far too long,\u201d he explains. \u201c[But] it did leave some room for exploration that has led to a couple of new songs, and it\u2019s just been a privilege to be able to write with the voices of Cynthia and Ariana in mind.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Pressed further on the decision to make not one but two films, he reiterates his point that the showstopping anthem Defying Gravity \u2013 which closes act 1 of the stage play \u2013 was simply too big a number to take place in the middle of a film.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u201cIt was hard to get past, Defying Gravity is such a sort of definitive end of an act that no matter what we tried to do, it just felt as if at this point, the audience was going to want to take a break,\u201d he says. \u201cYou could just hear the sound of footsteps going up the aisle!\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400\">He adds: \u201cWe did even play with the idea of building in an intermission or break into one long movie, as movies in the past have done. 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https:\/\/images.immediate.co.uk\/production\/volatile\/sites\/3\/2023\/12\/GettyImages-1202825439-e9003ad.jpg?quality=45&amp;resize=1110%2C740 2x, https:\/\/images.immediate.co.uk\/production\/volatile\/sites\/3\/2023\/12\/GettyImages-1202825439-e9003ad.jpg?quality=45&amp;resize=1667%2C1111 3x, https:\/\/images.immediate.co.uk\/production\/volatile\/sites\/3\/2023\/12\/GettyImages-1202825439-e9003ad.jpg?quality=45&amp;resize=2222%2C1481 4x\" type=\"image\/jpeg\"> <img class=\"wp-image-1938652 align size-landscape_thumbnail image-handler__image image-handler__image--aspect no-wrap js-lazyload\" srcset=\"data:image\/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAAAAACH5BAEKAAEALAAAAAABAAEAAAICTAEAOw==\" data-src=\"https:\/\/images.immediate.co.uk\/production\/volatile\/sites\/3\/2023\/12\/GettyImages-1202825439-e9003ad.jpg?quality=90&amp;resize=620%2C413\" width=\"620\" height=\"413\" alt=\"Ariana Grande wearing a grey dress with a hand on her hip\" title=\"Ariana Grande\"\/>\n<\/source><\/source><\/source><\/source><\/source><\/source><\/source><\/source><\/source><\/source><\/source><\/source><\/source><\/source><\/picture>\n<\/div><div class=\"caption-hold\"><figcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\"><span class=\"caption-copy\"><i class=\"icon-arrow icon-camera-circle\"\/> Ariana Grande.<\/span><\/figcaption><span class=\"im-image-caption\"> <i>Getty<\/i><\/span><\/div>\n<p>As for future projects, Schwartz is currently hard at work on a new show titled The Queen of Versailles, which will star Broadway great and former Wicked star Kristin Chenoweth in the lead role, and is based on a 2012 documentary film of the same name.<\/p>\n<p>He describes it as an \u201cessentially comic\u201d piece of work that deals \u201cwith very contemporary issues\u201d such as \u201cincome inequality and what\u2019s happened to the American dream\u201d.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400\">Meanwhile, he\u2019s less sure about the prospect of a previously mooted live-action film remake of The Hunchback of Notre Dame \u2013 the animated version of which he composed songs for with Alan Menken.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400\">Despite a <a href=\"https:\/\/deadline.com\/2019\/01\/hunchback-movie-disney-live-action-david-henry-hwang-josh-gad-alan-menken-stephen-schwartz-1202536031\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Deadline<\/a> report in 2019 claiming the project was in the works, it now appears to have been shelved, and Schwartz confesses that he doesn\u2019t know \u201canything about it\u201d.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u201cI suppose at some point, the phone could ring and it will be just me saying, \u2018Yes, we want to move ahead with a live-action Hunchback of Notre Dame,\u2019 but I really don\u2019t know,\u201d he explains.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u201cWhat I would like to see\u2026 I think the stage production of Hunchback is so amazing \u2013 so I\u2019d love to see that in the UK, more first-class productions there and in the US.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Menken is just one of many greats with whom Schwartz has worked during his career, and he says that every \u201ccollaboration is a great learning experience\u201d. But if he could single out one person whose impact on his work had been greatest, then it would be Leonard Bernstein.<\/p>\n<p>When we speak, he is greatly looking forward to seeing the newly released <a href=\"https:\/\/www.radiotimes.com\/movies\/maestro-release-date-netflix\/\">Maestro<\/a>, which explores the legendary composer and conductor\u2019s work as played by Bradley Cooper, who also directs.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cHe was very, very influential on me, both as a musician and as a human being,\u201d Schwartz says of Bernstein. \u201cI was in my very early 20s when I worked with him [on the musical theatre work Mass], and I learned so much from him.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI had enormous respect and admiration and affection for him, so I\u2019m very much looking forward to the film. I understand that it\u2019s a really good film that really delves into who he was, and yeah, I mean, he\u2019s the closest I ever had to a mentor \u2013 put it that way!\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>The Prince of Egypt: The Musical is available on digital platforms now. <\/strong><strong>Check out more of our\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.radiotimes.com\/movies\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Film<\/a>\u00a0coverage or visit our\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.radiotimes.com\/tv\/tv-listings\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">TV Guide<\/a>\u00a0and\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.radiotimes.com\/streaming-guide\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Streaming Guide<\/a>\u00a0to find out what\u2019s on.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Try Radio Times magazine today and get 10 issues for only \u00a310 \u2013\u00a0<a id=\"OWAd6a6c3ba-49f5-0b08-841b-80c9962943d5\" title=\"https:\/\/www.radiotimes.com\/magazine-subscription\/?utm_term=evergreen-article\" href=\"https:\/\/www.radiotimes.com\/magazine-subscription\/?utm_term=evergreen-article\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" data-auth=\"NotApplicable\" data-linkindex=\"0\" data-loopstyle=\"linkonly\">subscribe now<\/a>. 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