{"id":53417,"date":"2024-06-18T01:01:17","date_gmt":"2024-06-17T23:01:17","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.radiotimes.com\/?p=2058132"},"modified":"2024-06-18T03:28:38","modified_gmt":"2024-06-18T01:28:38","slug":"dua-lipa-i-had-no-plan-b-singing-was-my-only-option","status":"publish","type":"rss_feed","link":"https:\/\/c01.purpledshub.com\/radiotimes\/rss_feed\/dua-lipa-i-had-no-plan-b-singing-was-my-only-option\/","title":{"rendered":"Dua Lipa: \u2018I had no plan B \u2013 singing was my only option\u2019"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"rssexcerpt\"> The Radical Optimism superstar chats Glastonbury, politics and Taylor Swift. <\/p><p class=\"rssauthor\">By Matt Charlton\n                \t\t<\/p><p class=\"rssbyline\">Published: Tuesday, 18 June 2024 at 23:01 PM<\/p><hr class=\"wp-block-separator\"\/><?xml version=\"1.0\" encoding=\"UTF-8\" standalone=\"yes\"?>\n<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><body> <p><em>This interview first appeared in\u00a0<strong>Radio Times magazine<\/strong>.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>The first time I see Dua Lipa \u201cin person\u201d is at the BRIT Awards in March, albeit from a couple of hundred metres away.<\/p>\n<p>Having opened the show, she\u2019s up on stage for the second time, accepting the award for Best Pop Act (she was also nominated for Song of the Year and British Artist).<\/p>\n<p>From the circle seats of London\u2019s huge O2 arena, I watch a tiny figure on a big screen \u2013 and an even bigger stage \u2013 commanding the room, giving her unsuspecting fans a few more clues to her upcoming album, one of the most anticipated releases of 2024.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cYou guys give me this radical sense of confidence that I can do anything\u2026 and all the love and the support and the optimism is what inspires me.\u201d A couple of months later, Radical Optimism \u2013 Lipa\u2019s third album \u2013 is sitting pretty in the upper echelons of the UK and US charts.<\/p>\n<p>When I finally see Lipa a touch closer, she\u2019s comfortably curled up in the corner of a cavernous function room of an east London hotel \u2013 the kind that could double as a dance studio for rehearsing one of her blockbuster routines.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cTracksuit bottoms on, and hair pulled back from a face that adorns ad campaigns from Versace to Puma, she\u2019s relaxed, collected, confident and snacking on some almonds \u2013 while wearing her own merch \u2013 a football top emblazoned with Radical Optimism. What else?<\/p>\n<p>Everything about the campaign around Lipa\u2019s latest album shows that, some 10 years after setting out on the road to superstardom, she\u2019s very much at the top of her game when it comes to handling Brand Dua Lipa.<\/p>\n<p>This is, after all, a 28-year-old with more than 40 billion (not a typo) streams under her belt, a song (Dance the Night) and an acting credit in <a href=\"https:\/\/www.radiotimes.com\/movies\/barbie-review\/\">Barbie<\/a> (one of the most successful movies of all time), 37 weeks at the top of the UK AirPlay chart\u2026 Oh, and this weekend, she\u2019s headlining the biggest festival in the world. \u201cIt\u2019s gone all right,\u201d she smiles.<\/p>\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Dua Lipa - Dance The Night (From Barbie The Album) [Official Music Video]\" width=\"200\" height=\"113\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/OiC1rgCPmUQ?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen=\"\"\/>\n<p>On the day I meet her, it\u2019s announced that her company, Radical22, has signed a publishing deal with Warner Music. This comes at what feels like a turning point for solo female acts: Beyonc\u00e9 in a creative purple patch, Ariana Grande reclaiming her narrative, Billie Eilish calling the shots and making the best album of her career and, above all, Taylor Swift reigning supreme with her music and business savvy.<\/p>\n<p>Is Lipa attempting to out-Taylor, Taylor? \u201cNooooo! But it\u2019s so important for artists to take ownership and control of our own music.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>She talks about learning the hard lessons of pop music\u2019s past, from the Beatles to Britney. \u201cWe\u2019re in a world of artists being airy fairy and wanting to be creative and not thinking about the business side \u2013 because we only really want to focus on making the art, not the background thing. But we have to be knowledgeable about that side of things as well.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>This savvy is reflected in how she released her latest singles \u2013 Houdini, Training Season and Illusion \u2013 in the build-up to Radical Optimism, all with huge gaps between them, with a very long lead time ahead of the album. Was this, I speculate, anything to do with giving her fans time to learn the new lyrics ahead of a certain festival? She leans in, wearing a conspiratorial smile. \u201cExactly.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Ah, yes \u2013 a certain festival. In what was one of the most open secrets ahead of the official announcement, it was finally confirmed in March that Lipa would be one of Glastonbury 2024\u2019s Pyramid Stage headliners. It\u2019s not her first time at Worthy Farm \u2013 she has performed on the John Peel Stage (now called Woodsies) on a couple of occasions \u2013 but it\u2019s easy to glean from our conversation that her career has been building to this point.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThat\u2019s always been my barometer for any music I\u2019ve ever made that has gone on any album \u2013 \u2018What is this going to sound like at Glastonbury?\u2019 Because that is the pinnacle for me.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>The headline news is a (sort of) secret she managed to sit on for a long while, however. \u201cI got asked to headline in November 2022. I\u2019m very good at keeping secrets, and it\u2019s also been the best secret, so I\u2019ve kept it very happily. I just got the email, \u2018You\u2019ve been offered to headline Glasto on Friday night.&#8217;\u201d<\/p>\n<div class=\"image-handler__container image-handler__container--full\" style=\"padding-bottom: calc(100% * (3000 \/ 4500));\"> <picture> <source media=\"(max-width: 320px)\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/images.immediate.co.uk\/production\/volatile\/sites\/3\/2024\/06\/Dua-Lipa-Met-Gala-6d6db13-e1718636244425.jpg?webp=true&amp;quality=90&amp;resize=300%2C200, https:\/\/images.immediate.co.uk\/production\/volatile\/sites\/3\/2024\/06\/Dua-Lipa-Met-Gala-6d6db13-e1718636244425.jpg?webp=true&amp;quality=45&amp;resize=600%2C400 2x, https:\/\/images.immediate.co.uk\/production\/volatile\/sites\/3\/2024\/06\/Dua-Lipa-Met-Gala-6d6db13-e1718636244425.jpg?webp=true&amp;quality=45&amp;resize=900%2C600 3x, https:\/\/images.immediate.co.uk\/production\/volatile\/sites\/3\/2024\/06\/Dua-Lipa-Met-Gala-6d6db13-e1718636244425.jpg?webp=true&amp;quality=45&amp;resize=1200%2C800 4x\" type=\"image\/webp\"> 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Gala\"\/>\n<\/source><\/source><\/source><\/source><\/source><\/source><\/source><\/source><\/source><\/source><\/source><\/source><\/source><\/source><\/picture>\n<\/div><div class=\"caption-hold\"><figcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\"><span class=\"caption-copy\"><i class=\"icon-arrow icon-camera-circle\"\/> Dua Lipa at the 2024 Met Gala.<\/span><\/figcaption><span class=\"im-image-caption\"> <i>Gilbert Flores\/Variety via Getty Images<\/i><\/span><\/div>\n<p>And when did she come off the ceiling? \u201cFor ages I was just a complete puddle\u2026 like, jet lag delusion in the moment. That was at the end of my Future Nostalgia tour, and then I was still writing my new record, so I had in the back of my mind, \u2018Oh my God, I\u2019m going to be performing some of these songs at Glastonbury!&#8217;\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Radical Optimism leans into everything that has made Lipa a success so far \u2013 glamorous, ethereal, bass-driven, dancefloor sparkle, throaty \u2013 but with very few clues to her personal life. It\u2019s in contrast to the kind of intimate, subtext breadcrumb lyrics laid by the likes of Taylor Swift and Beyonc\u00e9, and Lipa largely refuses to trade on her private life in exchange for streaming numbers. But that\u2019s not to say that she doesn\u2019t have a hell of a story.<\/p>\n<p>Lipa was born in London to her Kosovo Albanian parents who had fled the civil war in former Yugoslavia in the early 1990s. After failing to make it into her primary school choir, she began attending the Sylvia Young Theatre School at weekends.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI had a teacher there called Ray, who I just absolutely loved \u2013 but he was the scariest teacher and he would make me get up in front of the class and sing,\u201d she recalls with a smile.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI remember singing in front of a class my age \u2013 I was about nine \u2013 and he said, \u2018Right, I\u2019m changing your class,\u2019 and put me in the 9am class with the 14- and 15-year-olds. That really boosted my confidence. 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alt=\"Dua Lipa in a black outfit holding a microphone\" title=\"Dua Lipa SNL\"\/>\n<\/source><\/source><\/source><\/source><\/source><\/source><\/source><\/source><\/source><\/source><\/source><\/source><\/source><\/source><\/picture>\n<\/div><div class=\"caption-hold\"><figcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\"><span class=\"caption-copy\"><i class=\"icon-arrow icon-camera-circle\"\/> Dua Lipa.<\/span><\/figcaption><span class=\"im-image-caption\"> <i>Rosalind O&#8217;Connor\/NBC via Getty Images<\/i><\/span><\/div>\n<p>The family\u2019s return to a newly independent Kosovo came when Lipa was 11. She loved the country of her roots, but felt the pull of showbiz London, convincing her parents at 15 that she should go back and live in a flatshare. What drove her to believe she could succeed at such a young age? \u201cI just loved it\u2026 I didn\u2019t know how I was going to do it, I definitely didn\u2019t know things would get as crazy as they did, but my love of it was my driving force.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI just had this fire in my belly, this determination that it was the only route I could take. No fallback. No plan B. For me, it was my only option.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI was working nights at La Bodega Negra [a buzzy Mexican bar in London\u2019s Soho], going to the studio in the mornings \u2013 that, on a loop, until I got signed,\u201d she says casually. \u201cWhen that happened, I took everyone for my signing drinks, and then I think I did one more shift.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Something that strikes me throughout my time with Lipa is her self-assurance \u2013 constant eye contact, knowing her own mind and taking a beat to consider her answers. She\u2019s very aware of the weight that her words hold \u2013 her views and politics have often landed her at the sharp end of the internet.<\/p>\n<p>Just recently, she was referenced in a Israeli drill rap song that called for violence against public figures who have expressed pro-Palestinian views. She also added her voice to the widespread condemnation of the Israeli bombing of Rafah refugee camp.<\/p>\n<p>Does she find the more well-known she gets, the more she has to check what she puts out there \u2013 for her own safety and sanity, more than anything? \u201cWhen I speak about things that are political, I double-, triple-check myself to be, \u2018OK, this is about something that is way bigger than me, and it\u2019s necessary \u2013 and that\u2019s the only reason I\u2019m posting it.\u2019 That is my only solace in doing that.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt\u2019s always going to be met with a backlash and other people\u2019s opinions, so it\u2019s a big decision. I balance it out, because ultimately I feel it\u2019s for the greater good, so I\u2019m willing to [take that hit].\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Surely she was only ever in this to be a musician and performer, though? \u201c[Speaking up is] a natural inclination for me, given my background and heritage, and that my very existence is somewhat political \u2013 it\u2019s not something that is out of the ordinary for me to be feeling close to.\u201d<\/p> <p>Glastonbury is taking place the weekend before the general election, and it wouldn\u2019t be out of character for Lipa to weigh in on proceedings, especially when most other people her age are being vocal on social media about the current government.<\/p>\n<p>Will she express her views publicly? The biggest pause yet. \u201cUm\u2026 for me, over the past three or four years, I\u2019ve kind of decided that standing behind a certain political party leader is probably not the route I want to take.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI\u2019ve always supported Labour, so that\u2019s where I\u2019ll always stand, but I don\u2019t think I\u2019ll be publicly going for or against anyone\u2026 because politicians overall just have a way of letting you down.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>We move on to musical politics. For the first time, Glastonbury has two female headliners: Lipa and US singer\/songwriter SZA. \u201cIt\u2019s so great to be part of the wave of women artists, and we\u2019ve got to keep applying the pressure.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThere\u2019s something to be said about different albums and different cycles, but right now it seems like the heaviest influx of albums by female artists \u2013 Beyonc\u00e9, Ariana Grande, Taylor Swift. We\u2019ve just got to keep going.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Can she tell me anything about her plans for Friday night, beyond turning the Pyramid field into a 150,000-strong nightclub? \u201cThe one thing I can tell you is that this will be a one-off \u2013 it will only ever happen at Glastonbury and that will be it. I think that\u2019s what makes shows at Glastonbury so special.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>She\u2019s collaborated with one fellow headliner before: Coldplay\u2019s Chris Martin featured on Homesick, from her debut album. Might we see him playing piano at some point during her show? For the first time she doesn\u2019t hold my gaze, as a wry smile spreads across her face. \u201cErr\u2026 there are no plans for\u2026 that!\u201d she says, looking away. I expect Friday night at Glastonbury might turn Yellow\u2026<\/p>\n<p>In person and in her music, Lipa strikes a fine balance of giving just enough of herself away to keep the world interested, but holding sufficiently back to keep her sanity. In many ways, she\u2019s an old-school kind of pop star \u2013 glamorous, just out of reach, polished and with a touch of mystique. But my word, she can get people dancing.<\/p>\n<p>No matter who she brings on to join her, come Friday night it will be Lipa who is holding the crowds at the Pyramid Stage in the palm of a steady, assured hand, as Worthy Farm dances the night away.<\/p>\n<div class=\"image-handler__container image-handler__container--full\" style=\"padding-bottom: calc(100% * (1772 \/ 1323));\"> <picture> <source media=\"(max-width: 320px)\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/images.immediate.co.uk\/production\/volatile\/sites\/3\/2024\/06\/1-SE-26-0-Cover-b1decb7.jpg?webp=true&amp;quality=90&amp;resize=300%2C402, https:\/\/images.immediate.co.uk\/production\/volatile\/sites\/3\/2024\/06\/1-SE-26-0-Cover-b1decb7.jpg?webp=true&amp;quality=45&amp;resize=600%2C804 2x, https:\/\/images.immediate.co.uk\/production\/volatile\/sites\/3\/2024\/06\/1-SE-26-0-Cover-b1decb7.jpg?webp=true&amp;quality=45&amp;resize=900%2C1205 3x, 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