{"id":15462,"date":"2022-05-03T00:00:00","date_gmt":"2022-05-02T22:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/c01.purpledshub.com\/wdytya\/?post_type=purple_issue&p=15462"},"modified":"2022-05-09T11:34:43","modified_gmt":"2022-05-09T09:34:43","slug":"why-cant-i-find-susan-jordans-first-marriage","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/c01.purpledshub.com\/wdytya\/2022\/05\/03\/why-cant-i-find-susan-jordans-first-marriage\/","title":{"rendered":"Why can’t I find Susan Jordan\u2019s first marriage?"},"content":{"rendered":"\n

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Why can’t I find Susan Jordan\u2019s first marriage?<\/span><\/h3>\n\n

Q<\/span><\/strong> My great grandfather,<\/span> Robert Long, who was a widower, married Susan Jordan, a widow, on 17 September 1882. <\/span>The marriage took place at All Saints, Newington (Walworth). On their wedding certificate, it records Susan\u2019s father as being called James Manley. I assume this means that Manley was her maiden name. However, <\/span>I haven\u2019t been able to trace a marriage record for Susan and her previous spouse.<\/p>\n\n

Philip Long<\/strong><\/p>\n\n

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Widower Robert Long, aged 50, married Susan Jordan in 1882. She was already a widow at the age of 21<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n

A<\/span><\/strong> When trying to overcome a brick wall, all possibilities (however unlikely) should be <\/span>explored. As it was possible, if improbable, that Susan at just 21 had been widowed twice, I searched the General Register Office (GRO) indexes (<\/span>www.gro.<\/span>gov.uk\/gro\/content<\/a>) <\/strong>for Susan Manley marriages and noted the various spouses\u2019 surnames. Using those surnames, I undertook a further search for any Susan who had married someone with the surname Jordan. I examined the period 1873\u20131881, since Susan may have been quite young when she married for the first time (the minimum age for marriage was not raised to 16 until 1929). To allow for a possible error in the GRO indexes, I extended my search to several family history websites, but all to no avail.<\/span><\/p>\n\n

It is important to remember that errors can occur, even in original records. So if you can\u2019t find an expected event, you should attempt to verify the source information. With this in mind, <\/span>I searched the records of All Saints, Walworth. The information in the marriage register matches that on the GRO marriage certificate and states that Robert Long\u2019s bride was Susan Jordan, widow, daughter of James Manley (deceased). However, the banns book records that the banns of \u201cRobert Long, widower of the parish of Bermondsey and Susan Gorden, spinster of this parish\u201d were called. The discrepancies between the records, Susan\u2019s surname and marital status, suggest that she had not previously been married and provide an alternative surname spelling.<\/span><\/p>\n\n

There are two possible reasons why Susan\u2019s surname differs from that of her father. Either she was born Susan Gorden\/Jordan, her mother remarried after her father\u2019s death and she supplied her stepfather\u2019s name, or she was born Susan Manley but assumed the surname of her stepfather.<\/p>\n\n

Katherine Cobb<\/strong><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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